Are you still on military grade stuff? Laaaaaaame, my bike is made out of space age materials.
Military Grade
Submitted 5 days ago by RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip to [deleted]
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Sisyphe@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Luccus@feddit.org 5 days ago
I really liked the trend of rating notbooks for MIL-STD-810.
MIL-STD-810 itself does not require equipment manufacturers to actually perform the tests defined in it, nor does it require that anything passes those tests.
Amazing.
ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 days ago
“Is that good?”
“Depends on the context. Weapons? Yes. Food? No.”
general_kitten@sopuli.xyz 5 days ago
still depends. food ranges from tastes ok to this meal will outlast you(against your wishes) weapons range from sometimes to yes
Hiphophorrah@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
What’s the joke
JayhawkJedi@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Military grade means made by the lowest bidder.
Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 5 days ago
So? Commercial is also made to be the cheapest.
cobysev@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Former military member here. There are a couple things at play here.
1.) The military will outline a specific requirement for specific equipment that contractors need to meet. Requirements depend on the mission, usage, tools required, etc. so “military grade” just means “we needed a specific product to perform a specific way.” This does not mean it’s good for any use. Just that it’s what we needed in the moment for a specific job.
2.) We are required to buy from the lowest bidder. We ask contractors to build products for us that meet the specific requirements we outlined, then compare/contrast prices. Every contractor that built our product are in the running to become our supplier for that product… if they can beat every other contractor in price.
So how does a contractor win a government contract while still making money on the product they’re selling? By cutting corners, using cheaper materials, and ensuring the product will last just long enough to meet our requirements before breaking. The cheaper they can build it, the more money they make while also selling cheaper than all their competitors.
So “military grade” just means it’s a cheap piece of crap that met some arbitrary request the military made for a specific tool at one time. If you want quality products, avoid military grade.
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 5 days ago
A joke my mum (ex-military) used to make was “There’s 3 ways to get things done: The right way, the wrong way, and the military way”
(For people who don’t get it, the joke is that the military often does stuff in a dumbass way not because they tried to do things the right way and got it wrong, but because they value consistency and predictability much more than doing something right vs. wrong. I suppose there’s probably a logic to it on the big, zoomed out view of things, but when you’re just a grunt, the way the military works can often seem nonsensical)
Datorie@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I used to volunteer for a German rescue organisation (think firefighters but for other use cases) and a common joke was “when you finish your deployment and you can only retrieve either personnel or equipment, what do you choose? Equipment, because personnel grows back after 18 years, equipment after 30”.
So yeah, we can relate to getting shitty equipment…
SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 5 days ago
THW spotted.
saltesc@lemmy.world 5 days ago
A budget as possible to meet the bare requirements for military use on bulk. You can consider “military grade” the baseline while most civvy items have higher quality, more feature, more comfort, etc.
zebidiah@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
Military grade means contract went to the lowest bidder
Rakonat@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Military grade is moniker placed on different types of gear and equipment to denote it was ‘militarized’ for use in service, or so the idea.
For most equipment, this means it was ruggedized, or in more laymen terms extra layers of plastic, rubber or some inexpensive material to make the item more resistant to shocks, drops or other potential trauma one might expect when used by soldiers in potentially hostile environments. The catch is the companies that produce these militarized equipment sell them for 5-10x more than what they should cost.
In the civilian world, people think military grade means top spec, latest and greatest. In the military world, military grade usually means it’s tough but it’s also a decade or more behind in tech and performance with very few exceptions. So if someone is trying to sell you military grade goods or worse, surplus, it’s guaranteed to be overpriced crap that at best is going to survive a few more bumps than what a normal, civilian version could.
TastyWheat@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I remember once I used to work at a electronics shop, and some dipshit insisted on a “military spec” Bluetooth speaker.
Uhuh mate
Rakonat@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Wrap it in silicon, plastic and duct tape and charge 10x the price.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk 5 days ago
So it’s the cheapest, minimally viable product?
ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 5 days ago
Military grade LSD is still the best thing I’ve heard. Can’t tell you what the military grade signifies in this context doe
Fishnoodle@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Is military grade the same as mil-spec?
Whitebrow@lemmy.world 5 days ago
No. Mil-spec is an actual certified standard
Military grade is basically just “we made this shit to look like it’d be good as a prop in a movie” no actual standards, just good enough to sorta kinda sometimes work and is made as cheap as possible.
cobysev@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Yup.
crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
Fun fact: “military-grade” encryption is AES-256.
biggeoff@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
In fairness, it’s still robust and quantum secure by design
groet@feddit.org 5 days ago
I think the point is in this case “military grade” and “everyday consumer grade” are identical
crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
But also an open standard, so you’ll know that any marketing material trying to sell you on military grade encryption is full of shit.