Funny how android used to be what we now call FOSS

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• wander1236@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Ironically the fork that only runs on the phones made by the company that also makes Android

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  • lucario_owo@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s a fork and always will, it’s still android. I don’t get why people refer to it as a different project. It’s the same project with tweaks.

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    • Matriks404@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      By that logic you should call most web browsers Konqueror, because ultimately they all forked from it.

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    • atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I get what you are saying. But the difference is more akin to Mint and Ubuntu. Where one started as a fork of the other, which itself was a fork of something else, but at this point in time both are so different from their original source material that they’re all three just considered different distributions of the same thing.

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    • RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      And Google has been taking steps to make Graphene development impossible over the past few years. It’s going to be gone eventually.

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  • atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They just announced a partnership with Motorola.

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    • psycotica0@lemmy.ca ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I was going to say “isn’t Motorola owned by Google though?”, but then I looked it up. They’re owned by Lenovo. But they were owned by Google! In 2014, which is 12 years ago and I’m going to go crumble to dust now…

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  • birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Isn’t there also Jolla? Iirc they run on Linux.

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    • MasterNerd@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yeah but sailfish isn’t open source, and it’s not really available North America.

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• Sisyphe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I don’t get GrapheneOS apologists. If you hate Google so much, how come you all have Pixel phones?

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  • cm0002@lemy.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    how come you all have Pixel phones?

    Because they’re one of the very few (And if you’re in the US, the only) phones with decent specs that allows you to unlock the BL

    If you’re in the US and want a privacy OS > Pixel

    If you’re outside the US and want a privacy OS but don’t want the crap tier specs that have been offered thus far by the specialty phones > Pixel or maybe a Chinese brand phone

    If you’re in or outside the US, want a privacy OS and want or need to finance the phone through your carrier so you don’t have to spend $6-800+ out of pocket > Pixel

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• hperrin@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  You either die the hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

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• DaddleDew@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I wouldn’t call Android “brilliant” nowadays if you count the forks that come pre-installed on most phones nowadays. It’s bloated to the gills and keeps the user locked out of being able to control what certain apps can do and access.

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  • memphis@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    that’s why it says “was”. in my personal opinion it was always hot garbage but that’s besides the point

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  • ozymandias@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Linux phone, open for customization… it was brilliant… kinda….
    fuck anything related to Java though

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• supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  There is nothing free or open about Android, it only looks like it is when compared with iOS.

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  • wander1236@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The source code is still fully available (and even searchable with code references) which is why all of these community and FOSS forks are still possible.

    Google is absolutely abusing their influence over the Android brand to continually lock down consumer devices and the versions of Android that ship on them, but AOSP has only gotten more open-source friendly over time if anything. The problem is there are fewer and fewer devices that will actually let you leave branded Android™ for some version of AOSP.

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    • Auli@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Blame the courts. His can Apple win an anti competitive case and Google loose. All because they where more open.

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    • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Ok, so basically what you are saying is Android is “Open” in name only.

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  • CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Android exists only as a place to push ads into people’s faces, with a focus on getting ad displays into less affluent markets.

    iOS exists only as a platform to sell iPhones and iPads, which naturally has a focus on affluent markets.

    They’re both in the control of megacorps and I can’t figure out why people hold up Android as some kind of open source hero besides a desire to hate on Apple.

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    • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Android consists of way more free and open source software than iOS. There’s a fork of Android, Replicant, which is endorsed by the FSF. Free and open source software does not have owners. It’s true that most people who use it (including me) still use versions of it that are mostly nonfree software. But Android is a step in the right direction, while iOS is one in the wrong direction.

      It’s possible to use an Android phone and rarely or never see ads at all. Pretty much the only place I regularly see ads on my (stock) Android phone is in the YouTube app, and I could probably live without that too if I wanted.

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