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• DoctorWhookah@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I don’t care which one we go with, but pick one and stick with it.

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  • PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You kinda need the back and forth or the work day start will drift whichever way.

    That’s knew of my major thoughts in favor of DST.

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    • wjrii@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Then let employers shift hours or start times if they rely on daylight. Nothing that comes from DST is useful enough to be universally mandatory.

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    • Kissaki@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      or the work day start will drift whichever way

      What? I don’t follow.

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    • mundane@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why would the workday start drift?

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• citrusface@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Because it really just doesn’t matter. If you want to wake up earlier - wake up earlier - but why do I need to fuck with the literal click twice a year.

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  • PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t adjust my lifestyle for this.

    The rest of the world does.

    That’s the point.

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    • Guest_User@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think what they are trying to say is then you, alone can change your schedule how you see fit. Many others don’t see the utility and don’t want the forced change.

      If you want more light in the morning, you yourself can wake up later

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    • HamSwagwich@showeq.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Then get up earlier? I dunno… why not adjust your schedule to accommodate what you like?

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• Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I have small kids whose sleep schedule is delicate and last change took us a week to recover from. It’s a needless, counterproductive, inherited tradition. I didn’t mind the change when it was just me, but it’s a lot of needless stress now. Also apparently, it causes accidents

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  • Davel23@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Apparently cardiac events increase in the week following a time change as well.

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    • PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah. That’s because of the cold.

      If you had said pedestrian deaths, you would have had a solid argument.

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  • PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My 5 yo’s schedule is already messed up from the darkness.

    He wasn’t even out late last night.

    We decided to wake him up at 8, while it was plenty dark.

    I’d rather it be that dark at 7.

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• Swerker@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Let’s keep the normal time all year round. If you think the sun rises or sets att the wrong time, change your routine, not the time

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• stimut@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Because the trade off isn’t worth it.

  While it’s nice having extra sunshine in the morning or evening depending on the time of year, it is quite disruptive, especially with kids and working with teams across timezones etc.

  But more importantly, people actually die from it. Consistently, and predictably. I can’t in good conscience support a policy which is merely “nice” for me but will literally cause other people to die.

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  • Fondots@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Purely annecdotally, I definitely haven’t done any serious research on this, but I work in 911 dispatch and every time we change the clocks it seems like we get more weird calls from people who probably have mental health issues for a few days. My pet theory is that it screws up some of their medication schedules and/or throws off their circadian rhythms.

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• lemmy___user@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ve been a software engineer for eight-ish years. No matter the industry or company I work for, a few times a year I encounter some arcane bug that turns out to be caused by dst or time zones or freaking leap seconds or clocks going backwards somehow. If I had my way we would all just be on GMT.

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  • hoover900@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    UTC for the win

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• BURN@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I don’t care if we use DST or not, just pick one and stick with it. There’s no convincing reason to change time twice a year. The places that don’t do it are completely fine and there’s not any scientific reason it’s necessary.

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• aalvare2@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I think it just comes down to whether you appreciate more sunlight before school/work, or after.

  I don’t really care how much sun there is before 8:30-ish. In fact, I hate when I try to get 1 more hour of sleep and I can’t b/c early dawn’s leaking in, so I actually prefer a later sunrise.

  But when I leave work, I freaking LOVE bathing in sunlight for as long as I can, thinking “my biggest responsibilities of the day are done, and the day’s not even over yet”.

  Where I’m from, standard time in winter means 6ish is pitch black - I prefer to at least have late dusk by that time.

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  • illi@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I envy you. On the shortest days we have sunset 16-ish. Fucking sucks

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• hoover900@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  no need to change the clocks for anything other than traveling to another time zone. it’s cool an all that you get another hour of sleep, but that’s for one day. switch the time forward of back cahses more harm to people’s circadian rhythms than anything else. there’s seasons and there’s more darkness during winter. we lived without day lights before before the Great War and it was done away with after the war was over, but for some reason it stayed around after WWII. in my mind it just needless adds complications to the already complex way of life and we sure be doing thing that reduce that complexity.

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  • Kissaki@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    to people’s circadian rhythms

    it also causes a conflict between human time-schedule and animals like pets, livestock, and other cared for animals

    They don’t know and don’t care for a clock change. They work with bio-rhythm and familiarization alone.

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• j4k3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It is all about having more end of day daylight hours in places where winter daylight is in short supply. For a lot of people it means a much healthier lifestyle with an evening walking habit they lose because of the dark.

  I’ve ridden a bike in the evening most days for the last 15 years. I have no problem ridding after dark. I find it slightly harder to stay motivated on the shortest winter days but I manage. However the number of people that were regularly on the trails walking and running drops by an order of magnitude. I switch it up and ride earlier a few days a month from November to February, and I don’t see regular people out then. There are a lot of people that develop solid habits for a year that then lose them because of a time change that was made for the industrial era’s corporate interests.

  The only thing I will miss is that extra hour for astronomy on the roof with a telescope. The USA needs all the health help it can possibly get though.

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• gigachad@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Handling time series with DST can be hell

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  • i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I have a couple of “smart” things I didn’t have at the last change, and it turns out I need to change the timezone on them manually. Argh! Just pick a timezone and stick with it - it’ll make everyone’s life simpler.

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  • PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Agreed.

    Leap seconds are even worse.

    That’s for a different discussion, imo.

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• skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  How good DST is for you, depends on where you live and what your time zone is. Some time zones are set for economic and political reasons rather than to match up clock time with the time of day. For some places DST lines up with the position of the sun, for others it’s the exact opposite.

  Here in the Netherlands, our time zone matches up with a longitude between the German/Polish border and Rome. Basically, we’re off by an hour for most of the year, we should really be on UK time. Portugal, Spain, and most of France have it even worse.

  What would be shifting an hour in the wrong direction for the east-most European countries in the same time zone, is fixing the offset for the west-most countries.

  There are even worse places in terms of time zones. China has one single time zone for example, as does Brazil, while both of them should really be on three. Africa’s time zones seem to be divided between “sensible” and “was once as French colony”. Alaska is just more than an hour off for the heck of it, it seems, as is the west-most part of Canada.

  Some countries even have north-south time zones divides (Australia, America). Kiribati probably has the worst time zone, lining up with Hawaii and Alaska geographically, but it’s a day ahead because it lies beyond the date line (but mostly trades with Australia and other islands on the other side of the date line), but New Zealand is also pretty far out there for no good reason.

  Take a look at this map and you can see how silly time zones are. I’m betting most DST proponents live in places where DST fixes their clock.

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• Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Completely depends on where you live. Each time zone has a “center line” where the sun is at it’s highest point at exactly 12:00. The farther east of this line you live, the more “natural” will DST be.

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• illi@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I just want a bit more light in the most depressing time of the year.

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• robocall@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I love daylights saving. More sun during the hours we are most active makes sense to me. And I think the children are safer walking to school in the daylight instead of dark.

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• rufus@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I think the majority of people votes for DST is because “Summer” sounds better than “Winter”.

  Relevant short video for german speakers: youtube.com/shorts/oMHd2Ad_7iI

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