Submitted 1 day ago by Sunshine@piefed.ca to memes@sopuli.xyz
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Say no to any age verification taking root
I’m really getting the vibe that this is a convenient use of the slippery slope fallacy by people that already hate on systemd for other reasons.
I don’t really understand that hate either, but hey, everyone needs a hobby.
I wouldn’t really call it age verification, more like an optional field you can put in a date if you want
That’s just the first step before they require you to upload your id. Don’t let in the trojan horse.
I’d argue the opposite. If we want to restrict access of kids under 14 to social media for example, then the parents should just be able to tell the device/browser, that they should inform the websites that the user is under 14. not the exact birthday, not even the year, just <14, <16, maybe <18, so that the website can adjust accordingly. That would be way less invasive then having everyone show their ID on account creation.
Is systemd going to embrace age checks?
Already merged.
git revert 7a858878a03966d2a65ef9e8f79b5caff352ac53
Adding a birth date field to isn’t super alarming to me. More PII is bad obviously, but it’s not required, editable by an admin, and hidden in system logs. Whatever this field will (or won’t) do, the effects are already achievable through user and group permissions.
If you read the discussion on that pull request, you’ll see there’s a ton of interest from the community in ways to privatize this, and I have a lot of faith in developers to reroute around stupidity.
The real danger comes from how it’s used in the front end, but there I have even more faith in the community to draw a hard line. Any distro trying to cut you off from your own computer until you drink a Mountain Dew verification can is gonna get forked so hard.
It’s an optional field in the user record your distro can make use of if they want.
I think you can see why people are nervous about this sort of affordance, though. Because of the kinds of pro-surveillance politics it is actually complying with.
Spooky stuff
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This has some serious cope to it
Systemd is here to stay. You don’t have to use it but it isn’t going anywhere.
That’s what people say about Microsoft, so I guess we shouldn’t complain about that either
Ah yeah openrc is great. Runs my Gentoo rig.
OpenRC and sysvinit are probably the best options out there, and dinit looks promising. Personally, though, I like s6.
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 4 hours ago
I am very anti-age-verification laws, because they tend to be pro-identification-laws. But adding a simple field signifying the age of the current user is probably as good as it gets, although i would have preferred a single-bit-solution (of age/not of age) or at max 2 bits (<14, <16, <18, of age). Using this to go after Systemd again is a) not gonna work, because it’s here to stay and b) i am very interested in how others will implement the legal requirements.