Remember when Obama chastised his Republican Congress for failing to pass the yearly roads bill? Because they didn’t want him to get a “win” by signing it? Boy howdy! Glad those crazy times are past us!
Really?
Submitted 1 year ago by TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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shalafi@lemmy.world 1 year ago
YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s what happens when you vote for trolls. They can’t actually lead anything.
neptune@dmv.social 1 year ago
The house is only 50.8% republican.
When the senate is 50/50 they come to compromise favoring the party who has the white house/vp/tie breaking vote.
When the house is effectively 50/50 they apparently shut the government down for weeks on end.
The country voted 49/47 for Democrats so we will all held hostage while the minority figures out who their leader is? Even if their new leader was so great bills would have to pass the Senate (where the minority generally thinks they are too extreme) and the white house where again the opposition controls that part of the government.
Maybe the founders weren’t all knowing after all.
DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 year ago
Any system is vulnerable to bad actors. The checks and balances in this case are not voting for idiots, but
madcaesar@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The founders sadly never could predict that one party would become Unamerican and 40% of the populace have their brain rotten away by lead.
redballooon@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Considering the time they lived in, a strange oversight.
tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 year ago
iirc Geoerge Washington already said the system is fucked and the effective limit to two parties will make it fail eventually.
PatFussy@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Its almost like theres a new party forming or something
slaacaa@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Wow that would be something, breaking up of the GOP. Dems could rule with stable majority for next 20 years - except they would surely fuck it up somehow.
hh93@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Probably the best point in time to change the constitution to remove first past the post rules wherever possible if that’s the case
whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I don’t know that I would get too excited about a small, but growing, fascist movement forming its own party. Seems we’ve seen that one before, didn’t seem to work out great.
negativenull@lemm.ee 1 year ago
New Whig party!
devbo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Are you telling me people in the same party, of a 2 party system, can have some differing opinions? crazy thought.
Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Here’s the thing. The job of a Congress member is to create compromise and work for all the people. If they can’t work the most basic part of the job, what good are they?
TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 year ago
So in 250+ years this has never happened, but you’re totally cool with it because it jives with some misconception you have about what’s really going on? The real reason this is happening is that the Republicans, through gerrymandering and collective cowardice, have allowed themselves to be taken over by a crazed nihilistic extremist minority. It’s not about different opinions.
Dkarma@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Doubly so when you realize “fall in line” has been their mantra for the past 30 years and the straw that broke that camels back was checks notes bipartisanship…
rifugee@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Hey, there’s 2 parties, so 2 opinions. Plenty! If we had more options, we would all suffer from decision paralysis.
JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
They can’t decide how corrupt and evil they want to be
MisterD@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
They are a party made of people looking for a quick money scheme. They just can’t agree who’s the head grifter
JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
Wannabe pyramid scheme
zepheriths@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Because 12 of them will only elect a maga one.
Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 year ago
And I can’t believe I’m saying this but I’m glad that they’re holding out. The less they’re touching legislation like a bunch of conniving molesters by abusing their majority, the better.
jsh@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
That’s their goal. Paralyze congress, prevent funding bills and critical legislation from even being voted on, and then go to their voters and blame their failures on the “non-cooperative” democrats.
Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
This .meme just encourages partisanship. Parties having locked unity seems worse for democracy than dissent.
tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 year ago
when we talk policies this argument has some merit, but we are talking fundamental proceedings to enable the parliament to be able to work at all.
if a party cannot get this straight and its members to compromise for that,then this harms democracy much more. It paralyzes and ultimately delegitimizesdemocracy as a form of government,which is precisely what the MAGA hats want.
Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
Oh. Yeah, great point.
TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I disagree. I think the whole situation will force Republicans to work with Democrats because now that there’s 3 “parties,” there will have to be more compromises.
redballooon@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Only there are no three parties, but two. Any republican who deviates from that will soon find no more support from his party for the next election cycle.
rainynight65@feddit.de 1 year ago
Tell them they’re not getting paid until they have elected a speaker. Watch how quickly they’ll sort themselves out.
Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Not very quickly. How many of them are multimillionaires? Go ahead, guess. Here’s a hint.
More than half of those in Congress are millionaires, data from lawmakers’ most recent personal financial disclosures shows. The median net worth of members of Congress who filed disclosures last year is just over $1 million.
They won’t care if they miss a year’s worth of paychecks if they can hurt poor people by doing so.
ATDA@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I think they make most of their money trading with their classified information.
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 1 year ago
the oil companies won’t stop paying them, why punish the ones who dont get that money
Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Does Congress still get paid during a government shutdown that they themselves cause? I wouldn’t be surprised, they seem to make a lot of rules that make themselves the exemption.
SomeRandomWords@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
Yes. It partially makes sense because you could screw the new congresspeople who aren’t corrupt with hidden income sources into not being able to afford their living situation, which could become a really bad point of leverage for awful people. I believe their staff goes without pay though.
nucleative@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Only a majority vote is required to expel a member. The Dems would probably help too.
Get started 😂
TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world 1 year ago
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
That’s how it’s supposed to work, elected officials represent their constituents not their party
TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 year ago
Uh, no, this is not in fact how it’s supposed to work. Not even close. This is why it’s never happened before.
ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub 1 year ago
That’s not how Republicans work though, tow the party line is sort of their mantra
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
That’s irrelevant to saying not doing that isn’t something to criticize
Red_October@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Good thing the Republicans have a long history of bi-partisan cooperation in the interest of a smoothly functioning government, and thus have built up a reserve of good will they can call upon to help resolve this dilemma, right?
Case@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
How about if the government shuts down there is an emergency re-election of all members of whatever segment of government caused it.
All of them, all sides. Not eligible for re-election because they obviously FAILED at their job.
The average working person doesn’t get a chance if they shut down their “company.”
not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 1 year ago
“But the Democrats makes us do it. It’s all their fault.” - Every Republican that has been on the news.
Fuckin singles cunts can’t even handle their own party and want to handle the country.
Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Sounds incredibly difficult to reign in a party that is only united in one thing. Opposing the democrats. Ideologically they have no unifying belief other than ‘democrats bad.’ Then each one of them is (not so) secretly vying for their own personal gain. It’s a wonder anything gets down with these nobs leaching off the system.
not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Exactly. They have no plan to fall on beside using Democrats as the boogie man. I found only one of them with a back boned and went on air saying that he would never vote for someone that has been saying the election was stolen. Sadly he will likely be voted out next year for being honest.
Decoy321@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This is the real kicker here. It’s all just theatre to keep attention on themselves while they gridlock the House from doing any meaningful work. Then they’ll use it as an excuse to say Dems can’t get anything done.