If someone tells you "you support socialism, yet you use products of capitalism", what would you say?

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• pulsewidth@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  Tell them they’re using one of the oldest logical fallacies, and Ancient philosophers would be embarrassed by them.

  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

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• whaleross@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  Ask them why they drive on public roads.

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• ch00f@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Image

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• Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨47⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  I use the least capitalistic options?

  Easy answer

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• ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  "It’s called socialism. I need a society to do it. You like baseball? Why aren’t you playing it right now?

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  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ok…but, in line with my username, I’m going to stay true to form! I shall take your reaction, which makes sense and proves a point, and I shall instead only use a small out of context portion of it as MY reply. The following series of discussion would in no way make sense, BUT don’t worry. I’ll just gas light the other person by insisting it makes total sense! And then someone will reply “Username relevant”.

    “You support socialism, yet you use products of capitalism”

    “YOU SHOULD PLAY BASEBALL!”

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• slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Ask them for products recommendations.

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  • DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Like what?

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    • Lumidaub@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Exactly.

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• RobotToaster@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Ask them why they use products made in Communist China.

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  • TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    China isn’t communist

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• bryndos@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  you do what you can.

  Substitute labour intensive alternatives. Its generally quite easy for recreation just go to an open mic night in the pub or a pwyf concert instead of all these streaming things. or take a walk in the park, or a hike in the hills instead of spending money on entertainment. Something like a game of football/soccer is pretty ultimate socialism entertainment - just don't pay to watch other people get your kicks for you.

  Go out of your way to use public transport as much as possible even if it's slower or more inconvenient. This good practice in compromise to try social efficiency and sharing assets over individualistic self centredness - this is basically tragedy of commons/prisoners dilemma though so . . . ultimately your society will need some general trust for this to work - and it will break down often.

  If you need stuff prefer patent expired or open source stuff, or just old second hand stuff. also get buy it for life stuff.
  Personally i can have hours of fun with a discarded wood pallet and some very old hand tools.

  Patent expired i.e. more open to competition/"free" market forces is like one step more socialised than the oligopolised stuff.
  (That is where the free applies to the trades in the market and access to it, not to the people who want the 'freedom' to restrict trade and market entry.)

  You can also try to share stuff with your friends and neighbors - that's pretty sociable.
  At the end of the day though land and food is essential, so if that's not available socially, you're fucked.
  Grow what you can and share it around i guess.

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  • DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨22⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    What about improv?

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• P1nkman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  Because I cannot go live on an island and invent the internet. Just because I’m playing the game does not mean I like it. Don’t confuse consumerism with activism.

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• Perspectivist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’d ask them what makes them think I support socialism.

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