who was the aggressor in cold war?

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• Wrufieotnak@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Both sides were the aggressors in general and each side had moments where they were the more active part leading to confrontations.

  I don’t think the cold war can be described as one single conflict with a clear aggressor, which is the whole point why it is called a cold war.

  I’m not knowledgeable enough if there are statistics about which side was more in the wrong or did more aggressor stuff.

  But for me, knowing that the USA did the Iran and CIA stuff while the USSR did Afghanistan and KGB stuff is enough for me to decide both were elitist assholes that didn’t care for normal humans but just wanted to increase their own power.

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  • rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    But for me, knowing that the USA did the Iran and CIA stuff while the USSR did Afghanistan and KGB stuff is enough for me to decide both were elitist assholes that didn’t care for normal humans but just wanted to increase their own power.

    That’s actually a pretty solid take from what I know about it. Both powers were being total assholes and wanted control over as much of the world as they could get. USA had strong weapons power but USSR had strong soft power, bringing social programs to people who desperately needed them. Roads and bridges and such.

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    • HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The USA brought aid as well. The Marshall Plan provided significant aid to its allies.

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• db2@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Yes.

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• makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It depended on where in the world you are. Both Russia and America wanted to avoid full on conflict so they establish proxy wars to try weaken the other. America was certainly the aggressor in Vietnam and Korea while Russia was the aggressor in Cuba and arguably in Afghanistan

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  • Wrufieotnak@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I mean Cuba was a crisis and dangerous for sure, and the USSR pushed it to the near breaking point, but I still find it funny that the USA got nervous when strategic rockets were close to them, something that was true for Moscow nearly the whole time.

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  • rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    while Russia was the aggressor in Cuba and arguably in Afghanistan

    Fucking pardon me? Russia literally tried to take over Afghanistan after the US gave them weapons to protect them from Russia.

    “We are not afraid of the Russians, but we are afraid of their helicopters.”

    – Some Afghani

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• sbeak@sopuli.xyz ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Both the U.S. and the Soviets supported countless proxy wars across Asia, the Middle East, Africa, Latin America, and the Carribean, with weapons, training, manpower, and a lot of propaganda. So many small conflicts were blown up to huge ones by massive amounts of funding and support from the two nuclear superpowers. They both had numerous spy operations involving the CIA and KGB respectively. Both sides were aggressive, there was no side that was not.

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• Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The cold

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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Nobody? That’s why it was a cold war.

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• captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Nobody that’s why it was cold. Both sides were ramping up and preparing for the other to attack. They engaged in proxy wars and demonstrations of their power and capabilities. But the cost of attacking was everything and neither was willing to sacrifice life on earth without being attacked first.

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  • pyrinix@kbin.melroy.org ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Well if Russia is adamant on using their nuclear missles by moving them to Belarus, that's a telling sign as to who we know that would strike first. That's the dangers of dictatorship in control of a country.

    No country should have nukes and I think we should destroy all and any documents, research regarding nuclear development. It's done nothing but make everyone fear for their lives and definitely leave everlasting impact.

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• yesman@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The belligerents in a cold war are limited to being passive aggressive.

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• gedaliyah@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Two powers wanted to build a politically favorable buffer zone, but it was the same buffer zone.

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• atro_city@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Neither and both. They both wanted their world view to dominate and did so by influencing a bunch of countries. The US fucked up all of South America during that time, Afghanistan, Iran, Vietnam, Korea, and probably a few countries in Africa. The Soviet Union wasn't innocent in all of this fighting their proxy wars against the US.

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• msokiovt@lemmy.today ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  In order to know who the aggressor in this contrived war was, look at the money that flowed to both sides of the war. You won’t like the answer otherwise.

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