Submitted 9 months ago by InevitableCriticism@lemmy.world to [deleted]
I love Journey. But for some reason I hated, “Don’t Stop Believin” and I could not understand why I loathed that song until I recently rewatched The Sopranos for the second time after 16 years and the final episode had that song playing until the “blackout.” And now I know why…
Anyone else had a similar experience with a popular song that you couldn’t explain why it rubbed you the wrong way?
Music nerd here so bear with me.
I liked Third Eye Blind when I first heard them, probably as a teen? (I’m an older millennial.) But then every song they released afterward sounded the same and I couldn’t stand them anymore. I took enough music theory (read: too much, I have degrees) so I was able to figure out why. They lean hard on singing on the third scale degree over a IV chord, which I suppose you could claim is a IV7, but their melody is always on the third. So yeah. I think they’re hacks without any ideas except that one. I get why people think they’re catchy though.
My kid is into music theory so what you mention flies over my head , but I get a bit of it because he goes deep into this and we discuss is. But he knows way more than I do about this subject.
Maybe they’re really Third Eye Blind because they are blind to everything but the third scale?
(I know nothing about music theory)
I’ve never noticed this but I have a feeling I’ll never be able to listen to them the same way again
Ah sorry!
I’m not super familiar with a lot of 3EB’s work, but I do like “How’s It Gonna Be”, and you’re absolutely right, they lean on that third pretty hard as a melodic element. The third tends to be sung a lot against the ii in that particular song (so yielding a ii9). but when they do use the IV, I notice the melody will often do the same, and it serves as kind of a tension breaker given how much emphasis is given to the third against the other chords leading up to the IV. The bass is also great in this song, not just using the root of the chord, but different degrees and transitions between them for interest. That said, I can’t speak to the rest of their catalogue.
Fucking Sweet Caroline. Such an annoying don’t because everyone expects you to sing along to that stupid-ass part.
The story behind what inspired that song is pretty interesting though….
It’s opposite for me. I never really liked Hip To Be Square by Huey Lewis. It always felt a bit cheesy to me, and I always felt Power Of Love did a much better job of showcasing Huey’s talent.
But then I saw that scene in American Psycho. And now when I hear Hip To Be Square, it reminds me of how much I love that movie.
American Psycho is one of my all time favorite movies! And I LOVE that scene!
“Is that a raincoat?”
“Yes it is!”
I also really like the soundtrack :)
I really disliked how The Sopranos ended!
Van Halen’s Jump comes to mind first, although my reason is just how overplayed it was.
I suppose one that I disliked a long while for a different reason is Bring Me to Life by Evanescence. I later remembered it was playing on the radio in my mother’s car when we arrived at the hospital after I drove her and my sister into the city to say goodbye to my dying father. He died a few hours later.
Unbelievable. That song (Evanescence) came on the radio when I had to give up one of my dogs for being too aggressive after I had my baby. It haunted me for years. I was a complete wreck after and I can’t listen to that song now.
But, yeah…I know hate is a strong word, but the Sopranos ending was the absolute worst. I hate it even now.
Don’t get me started on Jump! What were they thinking!?
‘Right guys, we’re one of the biggest rockbands in history right? And Edward, you’re one of the hottest guitar players since Hendrix are you not?
What if, and hear me out on this one, you don’t actually play any guitars in this song except maybe for the solo?’
Drives me crazy that that’s become their most popular son!
eddie was actually pretty hesitant on releasing jump for that very reason
I kinda like don’t stop believin’, because for a pop song it has one extended chorus to end the song. I like unique song structures though especially when really popular songs do something interesting like that. Journey kinda played around with structure and phrasing, given their musical backgrounds. Arena rock with fusion roots.
That’s the thing. I always recognized it as an amazing song, but I actually got nauseous whenever it came on the radio and I just could not figure out why until now.
Damn the last episode of the Sopranos. Now I need to figure out why I hate “Fly me to the Moon” when i love Sinatra so much.
Have you seen Neon Genesis Evangelion? Fly me to the moon was the ending theme, and that might explain it if you saw all 26 episodes.
I despise the line "I blew out a flip flop" in Margarita Ville runs. I don't know why. I think about a lot.
Yeah but it’s not some big mystery why Margaritaville sucks. The lyrics are asinine and empty. What’s worse: it’s catchy.
Exactly what you want in a beach bar song. Not everything needs to show off how deep and complicated the songwriter is emotionally.
I’ll be watching you - The Police
Creepy ex stalker vibes
Not just vibes either! That’s actually what the song is about except for some reason no one ever really listens to the lyrics.
I had read at one point that it was about the USA and the USSR during the cold war… not lovers but always present in each other’s lives. I’ve heard it that way ever since.
I think it’s the disonance with the music. The music kind of switches of your brain and makes it sound ok.
The reason I hate Don’t Stop Believing is because I sang it in choir, and my part was literally “dut dut dut dut dut dut dut dut…” for the whole fucking song. The same note the whole time, except every fourth measure we would go down a half step, then back up to the first not again for 3 measures.
My tounge would go numb by the end of the first verse.
The rest of Journey’s songs.
There are OTHER Journey songs?
Hey ooo.
I hate Timberland’s “the way I are” and Coi Leray’s “Players” because of the grammar.
I can’t live, if living is without you - I absolutely hate this song. One of the worst sentiments ever.
You are going to love this one youtu.be/vUAaHkGpJy8
I can’t stand it either
As an American immigrant, I could never understand why Don’t Stop Believin was so popular here. I even dubbed it the unofficial US anthem. I heard it so much I grew to hate it. Seemed like every drunk white girl at a party loved busting it out. Granted I did immigrate directly into a US college, so my view may be a bit skewed lol. But then on the other other hand, I absolutely LOVE Journey’s Separate Ways. That song hits so hard
It’s a pretty awesome song! I love Separate Ways!
Unless you hate remixes, check out DJ Trashy’s version of it. It’s old-school breakbeat so be warned.
Really his whole “Vocal Anthems” album is great. Basically high energy nostalgia.
Roxanne
Roxanne is actually a good song but played way too often
Roxanne is an amazing song if you enjoy the sound of cats fucking
I think there are multiple reasons why I despise “High Hopes” by P!ATD but: I did see a video where a media outlet forced John Darnielle of The Mountain Goats to listen to it and he pointed out the song uses the phrase “manifest destiny” as a positive thing. When in reality, the concept of manifest destiny resulted in the genocide and displacement of Native American peoples in the Western US.
I associate Don’t Stop Believin’ more with Family Guy than The Sopranos.
That was a really funny scene! Especially when they abandoned the funeral
I HATE Lost Boy by Ruth G.
I don’t know if I fully understand why but I’m pretty sure it’s a lyrical issue. Like something about the rhyme scheme or flow of lines just gives me really intense “I’m in 4th grade and writing my first poem ever” vibes.
The music itself probably also bothers me but I don’t know music theory well enough to pinpoint why. Musically does it also sound like someones very first attempt at song writing? Or does it sound better than that which then makes the terrible lyrics really stand out?
I love Robin S’s Show Me Love, but it has for some reason hit a resurgence in popularity and it plays even more than it did before. It’s to the point that I can’t stand to hear it anymore.
It was not the only house hit of the 90’s, and there were definitely better ones too.
So what did you realize After All These Years?
When I went to college, I remember hearing “Don’t Stop Believin’”, and thinking that it sounded really familiar.
Eventually, I remembered that I had played a lot of the Atari game “Journey Escape” when I was younger, and that wasn’t just a weird name for a game. 🤯
Donjuanme@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Immigrant song, in “Thor Ragnarok”, on the bridge scene at the end when he gets his thunder powers back, why did they play immigrant song again? It should’ve been Thunderstruck. It really really really should’ve been. Then Deadpool 2 used Thunderstruck in the parachuting scene and I just wanted to cry. It should’ve been in Thor
You’re not the God of hammers
“You’ve been [Thor hits the bridge] thunderstruck”
killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I mean, Immigrant Song is about Ragnarok? Not saying that Thunderstruck wouldn’t have been killer, but, thematically Immigrant Song is perfect.
Pea666@feddit.nl 9 months ago
It don’t actually think it’s about Ragnarok though?
It’s about Vikings going on raids and Valhalla and all that good stuff but I’m pretty sure there’s not mention of any Ragnarok type stuff.
DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 9 months ago
I’m with you, but I’m Aussie. The thought of seeing Hemsworth’s God of Thunder make a heroic comeback to the sound of Acca Dacca’s Thunderstruck chills the beer in my veins (in a good way).
On a (slightly) related tangent, I’ve literally just realised I’ve been assuming Immigrant Song was also used for Gadot’s Wonder Woman. It wasn’t, but I definitely wasn’t the only one who thought it was.
False@lemmy.world 9 months ago
“Acca Dacca” killed me lol
Jackolantern@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I don’t know man. I thought immigrant song was a perfect fit due to it being about ragnarok.
LazerFX@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Nah. Brothers of Metal, theft of the hammer. “Stealing from a god, you clueless fools… I am the god of thunder!”
Owljfien@iusearchlinux.fyi 8 months ago
I hate when album style music is played in the context of a movie where the characters can’t hear it.
I would have preferred something like epic and old sounding for that scene, for example I like back in black in the avengers because it’s literally playing in the world and the characters can hear it.
The way it’s done Thor Ragnarok just instantly kills immersion.
InevitableCriticism@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Led Zeppelin is my all time favorite band so I completely get you on this!
5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.de 9 months ago
Well… there is a KISS song that may fit…
m.youtube.com/watch?v=MysFVQ7SMnE&pp=ygUTZ29k…