and fuck the UK goverment
Why dont they just offer some government id api service that Reddit can use? Giving away ur id and shit for everything is insane
Submitted 2 days ago by Abraxas@feddit.uk to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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and fuck the UK goverment
Why dont they just offer some government id api service that Reddit can use? Giving away ur id and shit for everything is insane
Every country has their own, and they usually have pretty strict guidelines with who can access it.
its much easier to outsource this process to llms (or, much more likely, people manually checking it somewhere in Philippines)
Britain is the one to enforce this, so Britain should provide a way to do it imo, fair if the government has a partnership with a private actor to do it. But the government should absolutely have a stake and do oversight.
Unpopular opinion: this is a good thing - there should be more barriers to porn. I know some teens will find a way around it, but it has been proven to affect the developing brain negatively and normalizes some really harmful behaviour.
Respect for sharing your opinions and backing it up.
That said, it’s not a question about whether porn is bad; it’s a question of whether we should normalize providing your ID online. I don’t think the risks involved with deanonymization and ID fraud are worth it.
This is the most convincing argument for me. Despite the risks, I know these sorts of anonymous confirmation systems already exist.
Most VPN services tout “zero logs”, and many back it up with audits. We can demand the same from our government.
I’m sure drivers licenses and social security numbers made people uncomfortable too when they were rolled out, but they certainly improved our lives.
A slippery slope is a logical fallacy - we can impose just enough oversight to be helpful AND curtail overreach.
There is no meaningful barrier to porn without changing what makes the internet the internet. There are only old tech illiterate law makers virtue signaling about their children while those children run circles around arbitrary shit like this
We can change anything, and if it makes society a better place then we actually have a moral obligation to try.
Im also not asking for perfectly monitored total surveillance. Just some barriers for surface level use.
A kid can camp outside a liquor store, offering strangers money to buy them alcohol. But this is difficult, and has a chance of having them turned in.
In the same way an ID pop-up can be circumvented with savvy use of VPNs etc., but it will easily block many of the youngest and most vulnerable. It doesn’t have to be perfect to be effective.
What is worse is that the politicians have totally forgotten the typical behavior of youth. The are going to end up making porn seem really cool and rebellious which will increase porn addiction.
The law doesn’t exist to raise your kids to do the right thing. This is a massive privacy violation.
Advertisers have already been mining porn habits on Reddit to sell to third parties. Browser fingerprinting and the Reddit app identify you. If you were concerned about privacy you would not be using Reddit.
Then the parent(s) need to be parent(s) by monitoring their childrens online activity if they feel theyll have access to content they shouldnt. They should also explain what porn is, why they shouldnt view it, and what about it is harmful to prepare them for when they will, not might, but will encounter it so they have the tools and understanding necessary to handle and process what they are seeing. Porn exist. Its not going anywhere anytime soon. Making it harder to access for everyone isnt going to make it go away, stop witty teens from finding it, or stop content that slips through the moderation cracks in spaces that dont allow pornagraphic content.
Im not advocating for more porn or easier access to porn, but rather recognition that the parent(s) are responsible for their childrens wellbeing, education, and preparedness for adulthood where they will absolutely encounter adult content, online and off, regardless of if they voluntarily sought it out. Hiding it, pretending it doesnt exist, or avoiding the topic with them doesn’t prepare them for reality in adulthood where they are expected to be able to handle uncensored life.
Not to mention, as it was pointed out several times in the comments, an ID mandate for a website is extremely easy to circumvent with a vpn, something that is incredible easy to obtain and set up. The only way, in my opinion at least, to effectively stop children from accessing porn is for the parent(s) to monitor their online activity and educate them on what and why this content is not okay for them to view as a child.
The problem is that porn and self pleasure are taboo topics. Parents seem to want to make their kids stay kids when in reality they need guidance on how to be an adult.
Parents should monitor their children’s behaviour AND society should also impose barriers. The “everything is on parents” is the same personal responsibility myth that conservatives use to justify removing government assistance and cutting things such as healthcare and schooling.
On their way home from school children cannot enter a bar and be served alcohol - or at least this is exceedingly difficult. This has undoubtedly saved people from substance abuse. The same can be said here.
Also, I have taught young people technology. VPNs are not as intuitive for the mobile generation. Many will not bother, or when they figure it out they will be much closer to a reasonable age.
The barriers do not have to be perfect, but they will help.
the law isn't about access to porn it's about stopping access to lgbtq spaces (and anything else the government doesn't like)
If this is true, then this censorship is a terrible tragedy. I still would like government imposed ID age verification for porn though.
I seriously doubt this will do anything
The youth tend to be pretty good at pushing though boundaries and restrictions
So I don’t have a horse in the race, but I am curious if you follow the link to estimate age from selfie, and claimed some random picture of a politician is your selfie, would that work?
From what I have heard it’s absolute bare minimum level of checks so it will probably work
Idk but it probably forces use of ur camera and uses faceid features. can’t just upload a random photo
As those policies are enforced client side, an industrious person could probably see how it works and do whatever. I can’t seem to trigger any age verification to see, but if it works in a web browser, you can pretty much rewrite everything about it and make it upload whatever you like.
Sy far the only ones I’ve seen are scenarios where I have to upload photo to match my appearance when I show up in person to something, so it’s not useful in that context, but I’m suspecting this scenario is similar.
The counter argument could be that if a person has that ability, they are probably close enough to being an adult and/or have earned their technically illegal access to porn, and the site operator made a good earnest attempt that stands up to casual lying.
Wear King Charles mask and take a selfie.
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What happens if everyone just uploads the same 1 photo/ID?
What’s preventing you from uploading a random photo?
You can’t upload, only use the camera
Nobody has created some sort of fake virtual camera thing? Like it appears in device manager as a real webcam, but the output is altered?
Does this get enforces with old.reddit.com?
Probably, if not the UK could sue them for tens of dollars.
try redlib
Stealth also works
I hadn’t heard of this before, so I tried a few public instances listed on their GitHub repo. They’re all throwing a json error. Do you have a link that works for you?
redlib.perennialte.ch this seems to be working.
I’d say reddit changed something and broke it.
Hosting is so easy I even run it on Termux 24/7
That’s an odd way of spelling incest. /s
How old is your account? I wonder if this happens for 10+ years redditors too
I’m sorry to say, but as stupid as it is, just blinking and moving away is not gonna stop the proliferation of this everywhere, lemmy included.
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I got perma banned from reddit after pissing off a few of their nazi mods. Pro tip, if you wanna keep your account then don’t call out blatant far left nazis.
I’m as progressive as the next but reddit has a serious issue with "extreme left ideology "
They’re compromised.
Nsfwbrowser.com
Works for all subreddit with pics, I use it to watch whatcouldgowrong, instant_regret, etc. boobies.
Does old.reddit.com still work? It used to not even require a login for NSFW.
I don’t know about local requirements in the UK but testing now in the US, yes old.reddit.com allows access to NSFW subs without a login
The UK recently passed a law requiring submitting a photo ID to access adult content. It’s also super unclear on very important specifics
I’m scared
They ID at the liquor store too.
Go ahead and give a better solution. I’m up for it.
Except you’re not at the risk of the liquor store owners storing a copy of your ID when they quickly review it
Nor at risk of a server misconfiguration leaking all the copies to random assholes
Wait until the guy at the liquor store has facebook glasses or whatever they’re called
That’s why we need a novel solution.
Don’t be dumb, this isnt even close to the same thing.
The “thing” is how to age gate materials on the internet. I said I’m up for a solution. What’s yours?
A solution presumes there is a problem in the first place.
You don’t say?
Government should provide a way to anonymously verify that you have reached a certain age (not your exact age). If your id is a smart card, the proof could even be generated offline.
Yeah I agree to more anonymous it could be, the better.
Not sure how possible that is though.
Zephorah@discuss.online 2 days ago
Reads like more material for the Palantir machine.