Call for UK ban on single-use vapes as more than 5m discarded each week

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• FredericChopin_@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The fact that these things came out after banning plastic straws shows nobody knows what the fuck they’re doing.

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  • aeternum@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    straws aren't even the problem. The largest source of plastic in the ocean is fishing nets and discarded fishing equipment.

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    • HeartyBeast@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The interesting question becomes where these are coming from and why. Which countries?

      Straws may not be the problem, but I remember straws being washed up all over the beach.

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  • HeartyBeast@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I'm not sure what you are saying. Straws, like plastic carriers were a well-established product that could be beneficially regulated tp reduce plastic waste. Single-use vapes were a new product category that pretty much came out of nowhere and are now likely to be regulated. Do you want a general purpose ban on every single-use item containing plastic? Not a bad idea, but it would be a big, quite radical change to the way people lived their lives - no biros etc.

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    • FredericChopin_@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Straws a literal drop on the ocean compared to what corporations are doing to the oceans.

      I am happy to have paper straws if it helps the planet, but they chose the smallest thing they could do and as always put the onus on the consumers and not the producers.

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    • Maco1969@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Most of the world didn’t use single use plastics until the last fifty years, we could get rid of it all easily, we simply choose not to.

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  • Mane25@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This whole government makes a whole lot more sense once you come to the realisation that they’re all mentally challenged in the literal sense. It wouldn’t surprise me if they couldn’t even conceptualise how the two things are related.

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    • Uranium_Green@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Nah, that does a disservice to both mentally challenged people, and lets the Tories off for how cruel they really are

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  • FatLegTed@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Or even cares. As usual cheap Chinese tat (other third world tat markets are available) and its lapped up here without a thought.

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  • affiliate@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    at least nobody’s vaping out of straws

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    • ElBarto@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You might not be!

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• HipPriest@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I'm a long time vaper, it's got me off the cigs, and I use a reusable tank because it's what I've always used but it's obviously better for the environment and cheaper.

  I do support clamping down on disposables because of the waste and these ones seem to be the ones that get into the hands of kids.

  However, the whole scare thing about ecigs has always looked like a massive diversion tactic when actual cigarettes are still on sale. I mean it won't happen because it's kerching for the government. But I see literally thousands more discarded cigarette butts than I do vapes round our way.

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  • HumanPenguin@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    As an old fart. 53. I have to say. The number of cig butt’s is way lower then it was in the past.

    Really nothing more then me stating an observation. But during the 80s. And into the 90s. Throwing butt’s on the road was just what folks did.

    At least now most folks have the idea it is bad. So there is some notacible attempt to limit it.

    As for vapes. I sorta agree. Its an easy visable attack point.

    But like all disposable plastic. It needs to be the manufacturers who are held responsible more then the users. At least this seems to be doing that.

    But we have plenty of plastic alternatives. It’s just the cost that stops corps using them. If disposable plastics as a whole are banned. Then the corps are forced to look for cheaper production methods. And to swap.

    That said. I don’t smoke. (Did for a while way back)

    Are the foam like filters in cig butt’s made from a plastic product. Like most other foam. Or is it biodegradable. I habe no idea. On phone atm. (Hence typos) So will do a search tonight.

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  • Blake@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    To be fair, discarding cigarette butts is less wasteful of resources than discarding single-use vapes though, isn’t it? Also aren’t cigarette butts 100% biodegradable and renewable nowadays?

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    • JoBo@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Clearly disposable vapes are individually more wasteful though

      I do agree that disposable vapes are a horrible idea. But they’re equivalent to a large number of cigarettes so you can’t just say “bigger than a single butt therefore worse”. At least they’re recyclable in theory, if not often in practice.

      This is not a defence of disposables. They’re a ridiculous thing, designed for impulse purchasing by children. Fully support a ban.

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• Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  People discard these things on the floor… wtf… what amount of brain cells must you be lacking to think thats fine? How fucking numb must your mind be to not even consider that the vape cant just be chucked to the ground when finished?

  Where i work theres an unofficial smoking area and its littered with single use vapes. Fuck putting them ina bin like the article says people do.

  And wtf 1% flush them down the toilet?

  So many people are just so fucking stupid it destroys all hope i have for humanity.

  I know im being dramatic but it is seriously soul destroying.

  Just stop and think for 1 fucking second.

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  • MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What amount of braincells must they be leaving to vape in the first place

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    • Spambox@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • IverCoder@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What amount of braincells must they be leaving to vape instead of ingesting over 600 poisonous chemicals by smoking real cigarettes

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  • polle@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I really can understand the frustration.

    Always thought the same about people throwing away their cigarette buds. These are probably the same people.

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• Perfide@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Long time vaper here, fuck these things. Fucking leds, pcbs, type c ports, lithium batteries, all packed in to a device intended to be entirely disposed of when the juice runs out. So wasteful.

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  • Tesco@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m a long term vaper as well but I’m going to be honest I do get the appeal of the disposables. Ludicrous regulation has made proper vapes so ridiculously annoying to use for an average person that it’s no wonder people just turn to the easiest option.

    The 2ml tank cap and having to mix your own nicotine are both annoying and impractical. There’s also been a marked decline in the quality of coils and the tanks themselves since that law came into affect, with no actual benefits.

    I had to switch to an RDA tank because the terrible coils on offer now were costing me a fortune, I’d gone from using 1 every couple of weeks to having to change them every two days. I’ve tried tons of different tanks and coils but it seems like it’s just a fundamental design flaw, 2ml of juice just isn’t enough to keep the coils wet if you use a decent mod.

    RDA tanks are fine if you work from home like I do but it leaks all over my handbag when I go anywhere, so if you don’t work at home it’s just not a good solution.

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  • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Why would a disposable vape have a USB C port?

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    • alp@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Can usually charge them, they last 1-3 weeks from what I’ve seen

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  • MashedTech@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Isn’t the world running out of resources for batteries?

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• b000urns@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Just curious, are lithium batteries worse than other disposable batteries that end up in landfill? In know many are Nickle cadmium, but aren’t just as many ALSO lithium batteries?

  (Here in Australia at least there are means of “safely” disposing of batteries).

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  • Uranium_Green@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Lithium batteries aren’t exactly great if they still hold a charge, they risk violent combustion if damaged/pierced.

    The problems really occur when they end up in amongst trash heaps/recycling plants as they can ignite causing huge plastic/rubbish fires that smolder internally for days before suddenly going up.

    IIRC there are other metals included in lithium batteries that you don’t want leaking into the ground water (lithium isn’t great, but heavy metals can be pretty awful)

    Some places take the vapes, but afaik there is no consistent program, this is compounded by a lot of the people I see using these vapes are children/young teens, which means a lot of them don’t end up in the bin, but literally just thrown on the ground.

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    • DrownedRats@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      On top of that, lithium ion batteries aren’t designed as disposable batteries. In devices like vapes, they should be getting upwards of 400 charge cycles before being considered spent. Some get more, some get less, but in “disposable” vapes, they get one. It’s just horrifically wasteful!

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    • b000urns@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Cheers for the thoughtful response. Producing large amounts of harmful waste seems to be a larger societal issue, not something specific to lithium batteries, but I can see the part about fires being of particular concern. I still find the demonization of vaping in particular to be a bit odd.

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  • angelsomething@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The problem is there is no real infrastructure to recycle the stuff so it just ends up in landfills with the associated pollution from discarded batteries.

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    • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There are processes to recover raw materials from Li-Ion cells: freeze them to decrease electrolytic reactions, shred them and separate the bits mechanically (using computer vision) and chemically. Very expensive and risky.

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• takeda@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Single use vapes? Aren’t those called cigarettes or (given the article’s origins) fags?

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  • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Nah, these have electronics inside, and appeal to teens with their fruit flavors (which are banned in cigarettes in most countries). I took some apart, they are terribly wasteful, especially when all you need to make them reusable is sell the wool cartriges or liquid and add a $0.30 charging port and a $0.20 charging chip on a $0.10 PCB. The battery is already rechargeable!!

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    • static@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Most adults vape fruit flavors too.
      Disposables have to go, banning flavors is just pushing ex-smokers to smoking again.

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    • danieljoeblack@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I've actually been collecting reusable capes to pull out the batteries and convert them into powerbanks, crazy these are bing tossed after a single charge. Some of the batteries are pretty big too!

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  • Squids@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ve never heard a British person call a vape a fag, because that very specifically refers to a cigarette. Like you wouldn’t call a cigar or a blunt a fag either.

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• sturmblast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  UK just bans everything it seems lol

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  • Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Your comment is 7 levels of stupid.

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    • sturmblast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      other than the fact that there are several things being banned in the UK lately, all in mainstream news… sure

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• autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is the best summary I could come up with:

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  The findings come after a series of calls for a ban, with councils and leading paediatricians among those demanding action on vapes because of health and environmental concerns.

  Scott Butler, the executive director at Material Focus, said the “problem with single-use vapes has gotten further out of control” since the organisation published research last year.

  Discarded vapes create environmental waste and pose a threat to public safety, because their lithium batteries can become flammable when crushed.

  This all means that too often local authorities are being burdened with the major operational and financial headaches associated with what is now the fastest growing and most dangerous waste stream in the UK, single-use vapes.”

  He said there needed to be “immediate, significant and transparent vape industry voluntary action” and called for the word “disposable” to be dropped from marketing of the products.

  “Until single-use vape producers, importers and retailers act to genuinely comply with and finance their legal environmental responsibilities then the calls for banning the sale of them will only strengthen,” he added.

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