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• BreadOven@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s my field of fucks I have left to give. Where did you find it?

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• cows_are_underrated@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  First of all, what the fuck, how are people paying 1.2k lease per nectar and are still able to make a profit of it (this is possible if you plant vegetables, but most farmers dont do vegetables).

  Secondly, if you are willing to maybe invest a little bit more I would try to market this as a “DIY” garden. Basically what you do is, plant the field with vegetables, divide the field into smaller sections and then people pay you for having the opportunity to raise and and harvest their own vegetables. Harvest everything you can’t sell by yourself and sell it to your local supermarket.

  Pros:

  • Lots of cash. If you just charge people like 20$/month for e.g. 50m2 (which is quite a lot) that would come down to 1000$ per month assuming that you are able to rent all sections to other people (which will devinetively not happen). Even if you only rent out 50% its still 500$ per month.

  • Not very work intensive. You dont really have to do that much. Just regularly check on the field and care for all parts that are not rented out.

  Cons:

  • Further investments are needed. You would have to supply the field with water. The best way would be to buy a cheap forklift and some containers, fill them up with water and drive it there. If you already have a car that can tow trailers you could also use that to supply the field.

  • High instability: You can’t really calculate how this will work out, because you can realistically only calculate this for this and maybe the next year. This is also highly dependent on how gods you can reach the field.

  The field may be a bit off for this concept, but if you manage to market this to the city population (not necessarily the city population, but more of the urban population that live in denser areas) you can make quite a lot of cash of it. I think with the uprise of uncertaintys about the availability of food and maybe declining supply chains this might get more relevant in the future. For this to work I would suggest to start small. Just seed clover on the rest of the field that you dont plan to use. This has the advantage, that you dont loose soil due to erosion, but you also allow the soil to regenerate and ultimatively clover is able to fixate nitrogen in the soil which is OBE of the most important nutrients for growing anything. If you let the clover grow for 2 years it can fixate iirc up to 200kg/N/acre which is quite a lot, bit this really depends on a lot of different factors.

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  • amksenin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I appreciate your advice

    First of all, what the fuck, how are people paying 1.2k lease per nectar and are still able to make a profit of it (this is possible if you plant vegetables, but most farmers dont do vegetables).

    I am trying to clarify that atm. In my research, I saw wildly different numbers from $30 to $160 per 1000 m2

    Even if you only rent out 50% its still 500$ per month

    $20/mo per 50m2 is $5K… which is nice like you said

    I would try to market this as a “DIY” garden.

    There are actually a lot of projects like that. They unofficially partition the land into 500 m2 parts, arrange water and electricity (some don’t arrange that either), and they sell. Thy call them hobby gardens. Do you happen to know about them?

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    • cows_are_underrated@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I am trying to clarify that atm. In my research, I saw wildly different numbers from $30 to $160 per 1000 m2

      It is absolutely possible, that people pay this much. I have seen this in other regions too. What I meant is, that I still don’t get how people are making profits of this. Just assuming, that you get 200$/T of wheat and are able to harvest 10t/ha, which is a lot, you still only made 800$ of a nectar if land. This does not include the costs for all the machinery and fuel. Also at a price of 1.6k/ha it is dumb to not buy it instead. If you calculate this on a time scale of 20 years you would pay 32k in lease, so to make this profitable you could buy the land up to a price of 3.2$/m2 which is quite a lot.

      There are actually a lot of projects like that. They unofficially partition the land into 500 m2 parts, arrange water and electricity (some don’t arrange that either), and they sell. Thy call them hobby gardens. Do you happen to know about them?

      The difference here is, that the people are forced to do everything by themselves. In my scenario people are paying you for the work of planting the crops and maybe additionally taking care of them. The thing you mentioned is also more like, that people can build shacks on it etc, since 500m2 is way to much to eat all of it that you can grow there. It also takes quite a lot of work to maintain all of this. These small sections have the advantage of the people being able to maintain it without much effort.

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• Liz@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I wish I had enough money to buy 25 acres without a clear idea of what to do with it.

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  • cows_are_underrated@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This isn’t 25 acres. Its 25 decacres which is about 6 acres or 2.5ha or 25.000m2

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    • Liz@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Whoops. Point still stands.

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• Lootboblin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Image

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• Polderviking@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Farm things?

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• mrodri89@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I like the 2nd idea.

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• SpikedPunchVictim@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Serious answer. A outdoor area surrounded by casinos. Walking/biking areas only. You’ll need investment from builders. But you build it, they will come.

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  • milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    But ditch the casinos. They ruin lives.

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• alykanas@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  BMX Park

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• arakhis_@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  We really need forestland to bind C-atoms from the Co2 in our air. That would be the most heroic approach. Also wholesome since it creates habitat.

  forest management resulting in slow money

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• amksenin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Rain situation

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  • AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That seems like far too little rain to do much farming without totally draining local aquifers.

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    • amksenin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I might be wrong but this area’s land is quite wet. There’s even a small swamp in middle of my parcel. There’s a big river 1km away

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• AynRandLibertarian@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Plant an orchard.

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• fritobugger2017@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Pine trees for pulp wood? Pickle ball court?

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  • conditional_soup@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tbh, starting a sustainable timber operation seems like a pretty good idea if you can afford to wait 15-20 years for the investment to start to pay off. Idk, I guess you could offer it as a camp/hunting ground in the meanwhile.

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    • fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you do a permaculture Arrangements you can really diversify while you wait for the trees to grow up, although by then they might be more valuable alive than dead especially if you pick the species to benefit the whole permaculture system

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    • fritobugger2017@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Annually or sometime a couple times a year, rake the pine straw, have it bailed, then sell it to folks doing landscaping or have someone pay you for the right to do that.

      In Georgia, roughly 100 acres of pine trees sell for around $1.5mil to $2mil when they are ready for harvest which is 15 to 20 years.

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• Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Try to grow fucks and then distribute them free of charge?

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• count_dongulus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why is the village depopulated, if there’s a huge industrial zone nearby presumably with lots of employees? I was thinking workers might want to buy or rent low cost housing near their workplace if the land is zoned for it and you could get electric and a well. But if they’re not buying in the village, might not be a great idea unless there’s something wrong or lacking with available properties in the village.

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  • amksenin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Usually people in villages want to move to modern areas. Villages are old, boring, ugly, etc usually

    Works of industrial zone live in residential areas near the industrial zone. You could see that area in the picture below if you zoom

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• Apepollo11@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If you’re thinking yoga retreats etc, I’d consider building an Earthship or two first. They’re totally eco-friendly, almost hobbit-like buildings. They fit the vibe and would give you a base of operations for future plans.

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• foggy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If you build it

  They will come

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• Xaphanos@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Dark-sky site?

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• werefreeatlast@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Sit around and be a land lord. The farmer slaves can just plant and harvest stuff for you oh lord of the dirt field!

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• Vytle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Build a whole theme park

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• pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  place a monument to something there, and other stuff.

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• UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Trailer park

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• jewbies@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Serious answer: maybe just describe your land details to like chatgpt and ask how you can make the land “economically productive”

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• captainjaneway@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What does VISA sponsorship require? Maybe you could setup a farm/agrarian business and offer VISA sponsorship for migrants. As an American, I’d consider becoming a farmer with the opportunity to become an EU citizen lol probably not easy to do for a reason though.

  I feel like solar farming was a good suggestion from someone else. Maybe plant some trees if you’re not keen on making it a farm. If you can get it zoned, you might be able to get investment for residential? Though public transportation is lacking, maybe you could be the start of a small apartment complex or something like that. Idk much about this kind of thing.

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