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Cyberpunk 2077 Phantom Liberty - Gameplay Trailer | gamescom 2023

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  • scops@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    While I wish CDPR had pulled the band-aid and canceled (with refund or free upgrade to next gen) the PS4 and Xbox Series platforms, my controversial opinion is that this game has been GoTY on PC since day one. Plenty of my favorite games had rough launches (Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines, No Man’s Sky, Witcher 3, Skyrim - hell, I even lost an hour to the cross-save bug in Baldurs Gate 3), but it became a meme to hate on CP2077, and I understand why the devs claim to this day that the game deserves more credit.

    I understand that players are tired of broken launches, and I agree that devs should be more cautious about what features they show in alpha/beta stages to manage hype, but I think the oversized backlash this game received stopped or delayed a large swathe of gamers from experiencing a truly great game and gave the devs way more stress than they had earned.

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    • Veilttevstead@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They literally lied about what features the game would have. Not even the Phantom Liberty updates make it the game they were promising all the way up to launch.

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      • frostwhitewolf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yes, it was far far more than just a buggy release. Even if the game was originally released in the state it’s in now people would still have been pissed. The bugs were just a distraction.

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      • CitizenKong@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah, the only other game that was so blazenly lied about before launch was No Man’s Sky and to their credit Hello Games actually implemented everything that was promised back then now and then some, for free.

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    • Astroturfed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Did you somehow get a different game? Or maybe you somehow avoided all the bugs everyone else experienced. Still even if worked perfectly, game of the year seems a bit much.

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      • smeenz@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Even now, years later, there are still unfixed bugs. I have a game where there’s one mission showing up in a building that is impossible to enter. I even started the game clean from the beginning a year ago and hit the same damn bug again.

        Others have reported it too, so I’m not the only one.

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      • Transcendant@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I didn’t have any gamebreaking bugs, but had soooo so many “how the fuck did this pass quality control?” bugs. Most of them were pretty funny, like the time I didn’t understand how the cyberpsycho quests worked, and tried to take the unconscious body with me.

        The game system did not like having that body in the trunk of my car, with hilarious Dali-esque consequences.

        Aside from that, the deep systems that were promised were extremely shallow; the onscreen map was fucked, too small to see turns coming (pathing too CPU-intensive when zoomed out?); the onscreen HUD still last time I played was too small to read on a 4k screen; the car handling / driving is still atrocious (at least, last time I played). It is a fun game, especially for those picking it up now. Mods make it much more fun.

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    • c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Damn, a lot to unpack here.

      1. Broken launches aren’t something to be tired of, imagine if everytime you bought a car it has to be recalled. Every Sandwich you ate gave you food poisoning. All of the tools you buy snap the first time they undergo a few foot pounds of torque.

      This market runs on money, and the only way to combine them to put out functional games is to refuse to pay for sub par products. Anything less and they’ll go “oh shit, we’re still making money. I guess we don’t need to provide anything beyond a tech demo to rake in 70 bucks + cosmetics, etc.”

      1. They absolutely lied about their systems. Fully functional crowds and AI? Bullshit. A cop system that actually works? Bullshit. They pop out of a hole in the ground and insta-gank you. If they can’t even replicate decade old police technology that games like GTA IV managed to get right, then they should have just given you the “DONT KILL CIVILIANS” with a game over screen instead of some half-baked system of having police that spawn behind and instantly kill you. A total waste of a mechanic that they couldn’t even fully implement or commit to.

      2. While the game was mostly broken on last gen consoles, I have a fairly powerful desktop and still got game breaking bugs on occasion with only mildly infuriating ones fairly frequently. To say the game was GOTY on day one is absolutely mind-boggling. Your standards for games are clearly through the floor on this one if you really consider it GOTY on release lol I wouldn’t even consider it that good NOW and I’ve just recently 100%'ed the damn game.

      I’ll agree that it got more hate than it deserves, but let’s not swing the pendulum the other way and pretend this is some nugget of gold that people just didn’t see. It was broken and got treated as such.

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    • NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What about it makes it GOTY for you? It was a broken, hollow shell of what they had been promising for years.

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      • Yokozuna@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Honestly you’re not wrong, the launch of the game was actually horrible. The game was good in theory but was halfway executed and shoved into our faces as something great when it obviously wasn’t when they shipped it.

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    • MeanEYE@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If by rough launch you mean pretty much omitted majority of things they said will be in the game, then yes. Rough launch. And here I am worrying when indie devs don’t have enough time to fix minor bug in their games.

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    • okamiueru@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’ve been a huge fan of CDPR since the witcher 2. I love the world of cyberpunk. The combination seemed like a dream come true. So, I deliberately held out on absolutely any and all spoilers. It was not easy.

      I bought a new computer for the game. I booked a two week vacation to play the game.

      And, I mostly enjoyed it. It was a little bit underwhelming, and some systems seemed a bit contrived. But, it was still fun, with some amazing city design. Definitely not something that I would call GoTY.

      Then, I looked at all the outrage, and I looked at the promotional material. And, oh boy, did that seem fraudulent. Like, “how come no one went to jail”-fraud. Pretty straight up lying about every part of the game. And why? I don’t know, but it seriously stained my view of CDPR.

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      • samus12345@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Not only did it have all the bugs and missing features, the game was disappointingly mediocre even if it had been working perfectly. The only thing I thought was excellently done was the layout of the city itself.

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      • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Never ever ever buy a game until after reviews come out. It’s not worth it it doesn’t matter if it’s from a legendary game studio they can find all of the developers, they could fire all of the managers, and still be called the same thing. The name is no guarantee of anything.

        Pre-ordering games had a point back when they were mostly physical because if you didn’t you ran the risk of them running out. Although I didn’t pre-order GTA V and just walked into a game store on the day of release and bought two copies so since then I’ve rather been of the opinion that even with physical products, it’s probably not very likely they’re going to run out.

        But now everything’s digital there’s 100% no reason to pre-order. Make them make the actual product they claim to make.

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      • ADTJ@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I played through it at launch on my lower end gaming laptop (1050 GPU) that I had at the time. With some fiddling, and basically turning everything to lowest I got it to just about playable framerates.

        Massively enjoyed the game and its universe. I hit a few bugs but nothing that was hugely game breaking, at least nowhere as bad as people were saying. I also managed my expectations knowing my hardware at the time was low-end/dated.

        Then I saw footage of the game being played on base tier PS4 and Xbox One hardware and holy shit, if I’d bought it on either of those (especially Xbox), I’d have been furious. The game was not ready and should never have been released for those consoles. It clearly needed at least PS4 Pro or One X to even be remotely playable at launch.

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  • li10@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Did they ever actually get the game working as it should?

    I checked getting on for a year ago and apparently it was still in a bit of a state then.

    That being said, even though people were furious about the performance, the lack of depth was what really made the game a disappointment.

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    • Foggyfroggy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I played the whole thing on ps5, did about 90 hours. It’s good now. Especially the mantis blades that come out of your arms and the quick hacks that let you control the cameras then hack all the guards so they shoot themselves or fry their implants. I did a ninja hacker build. Totally op but it was still fun. And I’ve heard good things about the gorilla arms.

      The city feels more alive on ps5, lots of people, and I never had any issues with the cars or motorcycle glitching. If you like cyberpunk stuff it’s worth it and the dlc is coming out. There are areas where you can tell where they had to pull back, like the clothing options which all suck and the body stuff which has no purpose or unless you are changing clothes. Also I didn’t like V’s voice character at first but it grew on me. The acting is good all around.

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      • cowfodder@unilem.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I stumbled into ninja hacker as my build too. It’s so fun!

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    • Makeshift@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      the lack of depth was what really made the game a disappointment

      this right here. I didn’t experience any bugs at all on pc but the game is just bad, the world doesn’t feel lived, in and the gameplay is just meh (some guns were fun though)

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      • circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Working public transit would have gone a long way towards this kind of immersion. It’s a damn shame too, because the system technically exists, and there are even placeholders for stations.

        I think there were a lot of resources put towards getting the whole damn thing to run on last gen XB and PS4 which just made so many things impossible, and obviously you dont really want to have a couple versions out there without feature parity. They ended up with it anyway, but I think we may have seen a more complete product on launch had those dev resources not been needed for the older consoles.

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    • MeanEYE@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It strikes me as odd just how much fanboys can stretch their fandom of anything. Promise space and universe, best and the biggest ever. Deliver local park bench in average texture quality. Then after, now mandatory, apology JPEG on Twitter they release HD version of same texture and everyone goes “ooh, aaaah, it’s good now”. As if the rest was never promised. One needs look no further than Crowbcats videos for these downgrades.

      Only company that did the right thing was Hello Games, who sat down and worked their ass of and gave all the fixes for free and implemented everything promised.

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      • Graphine@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        HG hasn’t implemented EVERYTHING as promised. Honestly…

        The game is a lot better. Spent some hours with it via Game Pass. I enjoy it way more versus Day 1 release. But the core mechanics are still a problem. That loop of “mine, find stuff, build a quick base (new), leave planet” is still present. They’ve just added extra stuff to do, but that little quirk is what makes the game get boring REALLY fast. Even the planets are still single biome which creates this lack of need for exploration.

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    • dmonzel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The 1.5 release (Feb 2022) was where it went from pretty good on some platforms to really good on Stadia and next gen. I can’t speak to PC, personally as I’ve only played on Stadia and PS5, though.

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      • whatsyourquestion@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It plays well on PC too. It was mostly last-gen consoles that had issues iirc.

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  • ErinCrush@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So hyped for this. The changes it adds are huge.

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  • mySFWaccount@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I can’t wait (for the reviews.)

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  • TheDubz87@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m seeing this on Xbox marketplace sold as a bundle (game and expansion), but when I check the expansion it says not sold separately. Are they actually onlying pushing this as a bundle on Xbox? I already own the game so if I can’t buy just the expansion, I will not be playing it.

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    • Prox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      www.xbox.com/en-US/games/store/…/0017

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      • TheDubz87@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Thanks much! That’s a relief because I really want to play it.

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