Submitted 1 year ago by DudePluto@lemmy.world to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
cross-posted from: sh.itjust.works/post/2881638
The largest piracy community is hosted over at !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
lemmy.world has blocked it. It appears to have also blocked !piracy@lemmy.ml.
If this is a problem for you, I’d suggest migrating accounts using LASIM to an instance that doesn’t block it (such as lemm.ee).
edit:
An official announcement has been made:
It’s seems like a reasonable choice to me, I don’t understand why this is being posted on mildly infuriating, you can just make an second account if you want to go to that instance
Reddit didn’t block them. I thought this was supposed to be a freer place.
Lemmy isn’t one place. It’s hundred of independent places across the globe that communicate with each other. Each subject to the laws where they are hosted, the laws where they provide service and the judgements of their independent administrators.
It’s not good enough that they can still access the instance on another account.
They want piracy to be a socially acceptable and a “mainstream” concept. That’s why these chodes post it in mildly infuriating.
Well, the time has come to set up my own instance.
Looks politically motivated. Has Piraattipuolue commented?
I thought those .world instances were German, not Finnish
Welp, this is the thing that got me to get rid of my lemmy.world account and move to lemm.ee. There were other issues I was able to overlook, but I need a community willing to stand up to laws that go against the interests of the people.
It’s rule #1 on their rules page (bottom of page): lemmy.world/legal
I wouldn’t expect to be able to use a general purpose server for sketchy content. Who would want that liability?
lemmy.world rule 1:
No illegal content, including sharing copyrighted material
c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com rule 3:
Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles
So c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com doesn’t even break that rule. It’s for discussion
Even reddit hasn’t banned their piracy subreddit. How much effort does it take to be worse than spez?
Reddit has banned many piracy subreddits in the past which shared copyrighted material. r/soccerstreams being a huge one.
Reddit piracy sub is rather neutered and every piracy related sub is quite explicit in having no links to pirated content, torrents included. Lemmy community is very free for all.
It’s weird seeing otherwise normal working class people rush to defend admins, moderators, governments and authorities all the time in situations like this. I’m imagining some college kids working at starbucks or grocery stores picking up their phone in between customers posting replies championing copyright law. It’s embarrassing
As an administrator of many different public-facing services I’m always going to defend other admins right to moderate their services in whatever manner makes them comfortable, even if I don’t agree with their decision.
It’s weird seeing people who think they are entitled to piracy. Appeal to emotion all you want. It won’t work. Boo-hoo. Poor college kids. You are still not entitled, legally, to copyright infringement. Creators and published DO OWN their intellectual property. Your attempts at logical fallacies are embarrassing.
Explains how it’s OK for you to not pay an artist for their creation when they do not offer that art for free.
Human Knowledge was develeped socially, its fruit should be shared socially. The commercial use of other people’s work is unethical and it’s basically what every copyright holder company do, with or without the permission of the author. To lock human knowledge behind copyright is more than simply wrong, it’s elitism. Thanks to piracy, several books that aren’t published anymore, several games and several movies were able to remain. Doctor Who, for example, have tons of episodes that only exists nowadays because someone recorded them.
I say, good for them. Nothing good will come from them keeping that path open. As I already have all piracy instances blocked- it’s of no consequence to me, but if lemmy.world sees this a necessary to their survival/success, good for them.
And that’s also the beauty of lemmy… if people don’t like how an instance is run, they can find another. There are plenty that will work for whatever you’re into. Wether it’s piracy, or any other illegal act.
What an absolutely cowardly move. It’s one thing to not allow piracy on your own server, that’s you’re right, but to prevent your users from accessing communities on other servers? Way to give in to copyright trolls without even being asked. I would understand even if they received some kind of Cease and Desist. It doesn’t seem like it, it seems like they’re just willing sycophants who will probably federate with Meta at first opportunity.
The problem with how this system works is that you have to accept all content on your servers that you federate with. Even linking can violate DMCA.
that may technically be true, but I think people should be more willing to take a stand, and not just pre-emptively bow down to the copyright trolls, because it’s basically legally unenforceable especially the larger this the federation gets
I’ll give them credit that they didn’t defed the entire instance and I guess it’s their server their rules
You all can leave .world whenever you want to; nothing’s stopping you
It’s literally better for everyone to be more spread out, including Lemmy.world.
Oh man. It’s not like I can’t understand the logic behind it, but active niche communities are the one thing lemmy really lacks as of right now, and piracy was one of the earliest and biggest exceptions to that. What a shame.
Yeah sorry, hate to say it but admen got trolled pretty hard on this one.
At the moment clicking on the links of the defedereted instances opens the instance in the browser.
I hope clients/apps like Sync/Connect/Summit/Infinity etc give us the feature to browse these defedereted instances even if we logged into lemmy.world
I know you can’t post/comment/save, but for many, ability to browse would be enough.
A toggle in the settings for this feature would be enough.
Actually no, or maybe combine that with a nudge to move to another more open, freer instance - with automatic subs, blocks and settings migration. That would be productive.
You can’t comment? I’m using sync to see if this goes through
You cannot comment on defedereted instances if you are logged into your lemmy.world account
So you can comment but can’t post on sync
Itt: children crying that something got blocked. They also don’t know how lemmy works if they just bitch about where it’s hosted.
Lemmy is mirrored with all federated instances
Hah, just joined that yesterday.
Guess I should get the blood flowing on my accounts on some other instances.
lemm.ee or lemmy.ml are more open large-ish instances. I keep an alt for specific hobbies.
In fact this is my hobby account, and my ‘main’ account is on a country specific instance.
I think that the ability for servers to defederate from each other is the most distasteful thing about Lemmy. I get it, admins need to be able to stop their users from being exposed to e.g. illegal content should another server they don’t control allow it, but there’s got to be a better way than this. The primary effect is going to be things like this, things like ideologically opposed servers blocking each other, things like Threads being blocked whenever it federates. We don’t need a million little fragmented walled gardens.
so a malicious instance/user that post child porn should just be able to infect as many instances as they want?
WOW! Turns out lemmy.world is managed by even bigger dickheads than reddit. Fucking pussies.
And here I am.
Any recommendations for other instances where the admins don’t make decisions based on a single troll?
Selfhost because realistically any normal person with a passion of running an instance would(and, frankly, should) also be concerned with legal liabilities that comes with it.
sons of bitches
Thanks for posting this so I knew to subscribe to the community on a different instance!
Join an NSFW instance. You do not have to subscribe to NSFW content if you don’t want to.
Well, sucks to suck I guess.
I guess I’m still a noob. If I join another instance and am using something like sync or connect can’t I still get the best of both worlds since I’m connected to both accounts?
On sync you cant but I think liftoff shows you the subscribed from all accounts
This is why it’s called sailing the seven seas or something
I don’t see the problem. It’s illegal so of course they have to block it.
I’ve never pirated anything made by a giant mega-corporation! That would be wrong and immoral!
If it’s sarcasm, how naive of you. If not, i agree
Dammit… moved to lemmy.world cos they seem friendly and now this shit…
ribboo@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Ridiculous. My alt has already become my main due to the outages. Now I’m never going back.