Typical nanny state
My house isn’t inside a school or a hospital, therefore I can’t even smoke in my own home. Absolutely raging.
Plans to ban smoking outside hospitals and schools in England
Submitted 1 month ago by thehatfox@lemmy.world to unitedkingdom@feddit.uk
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c79ze8gv1w4o
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TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 month ago
glimse@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I get the sarcasm now but for some reason, I first interpreted the second sentence as a smoker too angry to proofread after fumbling their words.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Fair enough
BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 1 month ago
You’ll find other ways to poison yourself and make you smell gross.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Thank you for your input, I’m sure you smell great bro all natural sweat and dog shit not like those “kids these days” and their fruity fumes amirite?
Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 1 month ago
Shocking. I have a small studio flat (it’s not much but comfortable) in a surgical operating theatre but will they let me incinerate tyres in an old oil drum? No, they will not!
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Hard disagree. Fuck off nanny state.
Ban smoking with proven second hand smoke inhalation effects - sure, incredible overreach but at least there’s some semblance of logic, but vaping?
Just…Why? After 20 years of being studied every which way still no negative health effects at all have been found, not first-hand, not second-hand, but what has been found is that it’s an extremely good smoking cessation device that actually gets people to stop smoking.
Nah fuck off, bus stops were bad enough but good luck enforcing this, everybody still puffing away at every bus stop and more and more just brazenly on trains and not about to stop anytime soon. Bad enough that not allowing vaping in restaurants/cinemas/cafes/bars is going to utterly obliterate the high street.
bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Nice try to derail the conversation.
This is about smoking tobacco in children playgrounds, outside hospitals and schools. Just explaining it again, because there’s also the chance you’re just a bit thick.
Concerning vaping: Disposable vapes will be banned. That’s it. Wanna rage against that?
Probably you do so because you got your fodder in the Murdoch papers and just need to regurgitate your breakfast. Judging by the lingo.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
This is about smoking tobacco
Not exclusively. Please re-read the article and then familiarise yourself with the bill, particularly the following excerpts are relevant:
Subject to consultation, the government is considering extending restrictions in places that are currently smoke free to also become vape free, especially in areas where there are children and young adults.
This may sound reasonable, but surely the issue of e.g. a child vaping outside of a school is covered by the fact they shouldn’t be vaping as a child anywhere, and thus would either have the vape confiscated by parents taking them home or school staff? Such regulation placed on adults seems just unnecessary?
Unless of course: it’s not actually about the children as it tends to be with Murdoch newspaper moral panic-steered policy and is instead a much broader attack on vaping, which is supported by the broad far less “reasonable” powers granted by this bill as per below:
This sits alongside a ban in the Bill on vape advertising and sponsorship, **as well as powers to restrict the flavours, display and packaging of all types of vapes, as well as other nicotine products. **
As you can see, your statement
Disposable vapes will be banned. That’s it.
Is flat-out untrue.
Probably you do so because you got your fodder in the Murdoch papers and just need to regurgitate your breakfast. Judging by the lingo.
I’m really very sorry, and I do not want to embarrass you, but it appears you’re referring to yourself there. It’s okay. No one is immune to propaganda and we cannot all dive deep on all topics all the time.
Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You’re being asked to smoke away from children and sick people you prick. Nobody gives a shit about your addiction and lack of willpower. Nobody is stomping on your rights cause you’re weak
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
What the fuck are you even on about? Where did I mention addiction, smoking, willpower, weak or any of those other things you’re referring to? Are the looney bins full too?
Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 1 month ago
Fuck vapes and fuck vapers. I don’t want to breathe your cloud of toxic fake-fruit-smelling shit.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
And so what? Plenty of things I do not like, cars, chippies, fast food, non-brutalist architecture, low-rise buildings, smoking, weed and weed people (nothing against drugs, just weed), etc.
But I understand that others do like those things and that we don’t all have to like the same things, and when in a public space with others I will inevitably be exposed to those other things and I don’t think it’s reasonable in any society with some degree of individual freedoms to campaign the government to ban every single thing I dislike.
We should ban some things, but only with good cause, i.e. the bully XL ban, just too dangerous as it stands.
MurrayL@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Where does it say they want to ban vaping outside schools & hospitals? This is specifically about smoking.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Subject to consultation, the government is considering extending restrictions in places that are currently smoke free to also become vape free, especially in areas where there are children and young adults.
This may sound reasonable, but surely the issue of e.g. a child vaping outside of a school is covered by the fact they shouldn’t be vaping as a child anywhere, and thus would either have the vape confiscated by parents taking them home or school staff?
This is where I am worried the government is overstepping.
This sits alongside a ban in the Bill on vape advertising and sponsorship, **as well as powers to restrict the flavours, display and packaging of all types of vapes, as well as other nicotine products. **
echodot@feddit.uk 1 month ago
Yeah let’s kill all the children.
They don’t burning smoking your idiot they’re bunning smoking outside of hospitals and schools it’s right there in the title.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
They don’t burning smoking your idiot they’re bunning
Is this meant to be sarcasm?
levzzz@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I know quite a few people who started vaping, but then smoking as well. Their logic seems really backwards to me, but what do I know…
BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Most people i know smoke, then vape to stop smoking and then they do both just to go back to smoking again. It’s just a horrible habit all together. It’s disgusting, unhealthy, cigarette litter is everywhere. In fact it’s so much so everywhere that we just decided that cigarette butts isn’t garbage and can be disposed literally everywhere.
dumbass@leminal.space 1 month ago
Crackhappy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I smoked cigarettes for 30 years. I say this is a good thing to do and far overdue.
FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Ditto and ditto
Sylvartas@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Still addicted (planning to work on that after I’ve dealt with my employment situation). I always try to avoid forcing my smoke in people’s faces and I support this measure.
jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
Good luck 🤞🏻