Submitted 5 months ago by shish_mish@lemmy.world to unitedkingdom@feddit.uk
Its not surprising, considering the disproportional amount of airtime news stations like sky and the BBC keep giving them.
I mean, they have 1 councilor and so much coverage. The green party have over 300 and you’ll never hear a peep out of them from the right wing client media or the compromised BBC.
The green party have over 300
The green party have over 800 councillors
Source: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68956733
Tories becoming a third party will be hilarious
We can gloat now, but I fear that the Tories will veer further right to get back into power.
Every dimension of the world is heating up and everyone is getting desperate.
The common folk are clawing for change and will grasp anything to take back some power. The elites are feeling the walls close in around them and will lash out at any perceived threat to their position.
Once Labour win, we’ll have 5 years to prepare for worse times to come, 10 maximum. It’s not going to be pretty after that.
I want off this fucking sinking island, before it pulls me under with it. But I fear there’s nowhere else to run to, no shelter to ride out the storm. Humanity has never faced the collapse of a global civilization before, and I feel a lot of us will see it happen before we depart this world.
I don’t know, I think the Tories veering further and further right is partially what led them to the mess they’re in now. I’m hoping that 5 years in opposition, we’ll see more moderate Tories come back to the forefront, or, even better, Lib Dems take the mantle as the main opposition party.
But who knows, you may be right. I dread to think we’re about to jump off the deep end and end up like US politics.
We can gloat now, but I fear that the Tories will veer further right to get back into power.
They can go as far to the right as they want while being in opposition, but if they want any gleam of power they will have to come back to the centre. Look at Labour with Corbyn and Labour today, it will be the same but on the opposite side. They’ll have a year or 2 with some hard right policies, realise it’s not working, then get a more sane leader in when the election window gets closer.
Once Labour win, we’ll have 5 years to prepare for worse times to come, 10 maximum. It’s not going to be pretty after that.
I think you’re being generous with your time there, people have short memories, let’s not forget Labour aren’t exactly winning on merit here but more “the least worst option”, they’ll have a honeymoon period of about 2 years before people ask “why are things still bad??”
I predict they will formally merge with Reform UK during the next election cycle. Too much money behind them for them to just disappear into the political wilderness.
Yeah, if there’s one thing you can count on it’s the left fracturing and conservatives having class solidarity.
Nice thought. But that will never happen with our rotten FPTP system
It’s unlikely but it actually could happen if tactical voting is used. Remember tactical voting is the Achilles tendon of the first pass the post system. It assumes that people won’t figure it out and won’t vote accordingly and historically that was true but now that’s changing. Mostly because the conservatives have become utterly reprehensible.
Previously they were at least moderately acceptable and so people put up with them
I agree that Britain needs reform, but my version probably involves putting racist demagogues in the village stocks a bit more than theirs.
They should have been called the revert party, because that’s what they want. They want to take us back to some rose tinted view of the past that never actually existed.
After the D day gaffe, I think the Tories are fucked.
Truly a bacon sandwich moment for the ages.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Reform UK has pulled to within two points of the Conservatives, according to the latest YouGov poll of the election campaign for Sky News.
The latest exclusive weekly survey, conducted on Monday and Tuesday before the head-to-head TV debate, puts Labour on 40%, the Tories on 19%, Reform UK on 17%, the Liberal Democrats on 10% and the Greens on 7%.
The impact of the methodological change - which applies modelling to turnout and the behaviour of don’t knows - is typically to reduce the Labour lead by three and increase the Lib Dem share by about two.
The poll is likely to worry some Conservatives, who fear losing voters on the right of their party to Reform UK - especially now Mr Farage is at the helm.
Read More:What is the Reform party and what are their policies?Panic will spread through Tory ranks after stunning pollWoman charged with assault after milkshake thrown at Farage
A YouGov MRP poll of 53,334 people in England and Wales and 5,541 in Scotland, published on Monday, had the Conservatives likely to win Clacton but that was before Mr Farage made his dramatic announcement to return to frontline politics.
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Reform has some good points. It’s unfortunate that the left has completely lost their mind because it would be nice to vote for a sane left party. But the only option for key issues is Reform.
As wonderful a sweeping statement as “the left have lost their mind” (said no one who would ever vote left ever) is, its pretty laughable that anyone thinks the corporatist reform party would ever actually lower immigration.
I mean, literally all of the left leaning parties have said they will lower immigration but don’t let that ruin the narrative.
I have exclusively only voted left actually.
The left aren’t doing enough, the Tories have proven they haven’t done enough. That’s why reform makes sense because it sends a message about how much immigration needs to be reduced.
Assuming you’re not trolling. Can you please expand on what good points do you think they offer?
Getting rid of FPTP and doing absolutely anything about immigration rather than just acting like it isn’t an issue.
Everything else is secondary.
Reform aren’t a real political party. Real political parties have to reveal who donated to them and what their vested interests are in.
Reform is the personal hype machine of Nigel Farage and exists solely to keep that pound shop Oswald Moseley in the newspapers.
I’m aware they are a hype machine.
But you can’t doubt the effect UKIP had on the UK relationship with the EU. (Even though I voted remain)
I’m hoping they can also do something about immigration.
Standard reactionary apologia.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I loved his work on Brexit, I wonder what he’ll do next to improve the life of the common folk?
Naich@lemmings.world 5 months ago
He will personally come round and shit on your living room carpet.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Impressive, I would have thought he’d have sent a guy for that.