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• BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I’m not saying that you’re wrong. You sound like you might know what you’re talking about. I just like publications and medical evidence. I trust that you won’t take it the wrong way.

  That is… Incorrect, there is about a 30% death rate within one year of brain trauma […]

  Source?

  […] but there is absolutely no data showing that someone is going to die within an hour of being knocked unconscious more often than not, […]

  Do you have a metastudy or something for that?

  especially if they are young

  That last sentence, do you have a source for the difference in outcome depending on the patient’s age?

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  • yokonzo@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Bricolo, A., Turazzi, S., & Feriotti, G. (1980). Prolonged posttraumatic unconsciousness: therapeutic assets and liabilities… Journal of neurosurgery, 52 5, 625-34 . doi.org/10.3171/JNS.1980.52.5.0625.

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    • uranibaba@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Is it not the one who claims something that has the burden of proof? I’m confused.

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      • Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I’d say it’s more a burden for the person making the claim that goes against reality. Imminent death is not in the least a common progression of getting knocked out.

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      • adj16@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yes. The OP of this thread needs to back up their claim that getting knocked out will kill you

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    • BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      And it’s not on me to find the burden of truth for you. That’s a logical fallacy and a bad arguing tactic

      FFS I wasn’t trying to argue with you. Since you quoted some very specific numbers, I thought that you had done some recent research on the matter, and thus had an up to date knowledge of the current studies. In that case copy pasting said references from endnote should have taken 30 seconds and provided the community with a lot of valuable info.

      I wasn’t trying to get you to search for studies that would back up your claims, I thought you had them already.

      Why does asking for citations equal arguing? Where did I even hint that I thought you were wrong? I very much tried to make my intentions clear, yet everyone still think that I’m some smuck smart-ass trying to win an argument … an argument I wasn’t even part of to begin with.

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    • BlackPenguins@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      OP made a claim. And then Yoko made a claim. The burden of proof is on both of them. Not the third party guy asking for sources.

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  • jaybone@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    This thread is like getting hit in the head with a can of beans.

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    • Klear@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The Lemmy experience.

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  • M0oP0o@mander.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Source?

    https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/15038-concussion This work (not for the 30% thing but just in general)?

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  • thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    A weird amount of people were triggered by you asking for evidence. A reflection on our times.

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    • valentinesmith@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Maybe, but they could’ve also posted the same request for citations on the first poster but did not.

      I think that really does reflect how someone can just say whatever and when challenged we are biased to only assume the second opinion as doubtful.

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      • BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        OP’s claims of “oh mer gerhd you dead soon” were so broad and so wild that they didn’t seemed rooted in research. Asking for citations would be like asking your antivax aunt for her DIY “research”. But at least the claims should motivate people to seek healthcare, if they get knocked unconscious. Something that will save lives. So I left it at that.

        I asked for citations where I did, because it seemed like that commenter worked in the medical field, and actually could have the studies handy.

        If you read my request as casting doubt, then I invite you to read the first paragraph again. I specifically pointed out I just like scientific research, data, and evidence. I actually tried to avoid being seen as arguing against the claims.

        I can’t help that you (and a lot of other people, apparently) see asking for citations, as casting doubt. Expressing doubt wasn’t my intention, I was genuinely curious about the sources.

        And if being curious about science is wrong, then I’m going crawl up under a warm blanket, with a cup of chai and a nice peer reviewed metastudy, while staying wrong.

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    • Maalus@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Source? Show me the evidence and metastudy

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  • festnt@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    at least show the studies you’re referencing instead of just saying you have them and asking for others to show theirs

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    • Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It’s because he doesn’t have them.

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    • BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Are you talking to me? I mean you replied to my comment, but saying that I’m referencing studies doesn’t make any sense. Well at least not to me, because I don’t believe that I claimed to have any studies for anything.

      If you meant to reply to me, please go read my first paragraph, and the maybe try it a second time. I actively tried to avoid getting labeled as dismissing the claims.

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      • festnt@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I just like publications and medical evidence.

        so by that you mean you just like them but dont use or reference them? and yet you still ask others to show theirs? what kind of logic is this?!?!?

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