America I’m guessing.
Comment on Did the concept of 9-5 included a 30 minute lunch and two 15 minute breaks?
Sundial@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Where are you working where you are expected to work through your breaks? 9-5 should include your break times as well, yes.
smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Sundial@lemm.ee 1 day ago
I’m Canadian myself but isn’t this illegal? In Canada we have a labor program where you can file a complaint if it comes to that.
smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Depends on the state. But the reality is you need to hire a lawyer to fight it and we already have to choose between a roof and food most of the time so good luck with that.
Sundial@lemm.ee 1 day ago
That sucks, sorry to hear that. I honestly thought the US had a similar thing as well. I guess that explains the huge push for more unions across the US over the past few years.
wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
In Canada full time is 40h, not 35. In Quebec an employer isn’t required to give 15mins break. But if they do they must be paid. The 30mins lunch break is mandatory, but also unpaid. You’ve just gotten lucky with decent employers/union jobs. I’d imagine other provinces are similar.
…gouv.qc.ca/…/presence-work-breaks-and-weekly-res…
An employer is under no obligation to offer breaks but when a break is granted, it must be paid and be included in the calculation of the hours worked.
After 5 consecutive hours of work, a worker is entitled to a 30-minute meal break, without pay. If the worker is required to remain at their workstation during this time, their meal break must be paid.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Oh I’m sure you can FILE a complaint here too.
Doesn’t mean anybody gives a shit.
Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 1 day ago
Depends on the Province I think. Where I’m at you’re entitled to 30 min off (unpaid) within the first 5 hours, and another within 8 if you’re working longer than 8 hours. 15 min breaks are not mandated except that if the company gives you them they must be paid.
xmunk@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
In British Columbia our labor laws were basically written by EA so tech workers have almost no protection against overtime unless it’s contiguous - the only hard limit on working is once you hit 32 continuous hours you must be given time off… BC high tech employees are exempt from any overtime and the only limit they still get is that they must be given eight hours off every day - but that’s eight hours not working, not necessarily eight hours of sleep. So you could be asked to work 32 continuous hours then be sent home with a forty-five minute drive, get home, sleep for six and a half hours (or try to) then get back in your car to drive back to the office to work another sixteen hours.
If you objected to this schedule you could quit but you’d have no legal recourse to sue your employer.
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 1 day ago
I’d guess too. In central and eastern Europe, 7 to 3 is the norm but nobody pronounces it that.
jagged_circle@feddit.nl 13 hours ago
Probably the US, specifically. Most of America has unions, except the US has all but made actual unions illegal
Steve@communick.news 1 day ago
Every job I’ve ever had.
Sundial@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Sounds like you’ve been taken advantage of. Assuming you live in a western country they should have some kind of department for labor violations you can escalate to if it comes that.
Steve@communick.news 1 day ago
I’m in the US.
I’ve never had a job tell us we can’t take our 15s. But most places keep staffing tight enough, and busy enough, that people feel guilty taking a 15 unless they have a real reason to.
Personally, I find them kind of frustrating. By the time I begin to calm down, it’s time to head back. It’s not even like a real break. Where I am now, 30min is auto deduced for lunch, so we take 45min lunches most of the time.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 hours ago
The worst is when they’re like that about lunch breaks, but when it comes to smoking, all bets are off. If you don’t smoke, then you can just go fuck yourself I guess…
Much less common than it used to be, but still a thing some places.
gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
That’s be super illegal, yeah
I’ve worked one place that enforced they be 10 minutes, though, which is the requirement in California, shockingly
superkret@feddit.org 1 day ago
I’m in Germany. I’m 40 years old. And this year, for the first time in my life, I work in a job that is 9 to 5 with an hour of breaks.
Which counts as 7 working hours. Because the breaks are not included as work time. Never have been. In none of the official, unionized jobs I ever worked.
bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Most jobs I’ve had will schedule 8-430/9-530/etc, so that you work a full 8 hours but you have a 30min mandatory unpaid lunch break. The two 15 min breaks are paid, but they were also “discouraged.”