Like losing the popular vote.
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some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 months ago
Hitler was appointed chancellor by Hindenburg. He wasn’t voted in by the people.
WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 3 months ago
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some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 months ago
Hitler was appointed chancellor by Hindenburg. He wasn’t voted in by the people.
Like losing the popular vote.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Even setting aside the bit of history where the SDP party rallied around Hindenburg because of their deep and abiding fear of the Evil Russian Backed KDP party (god damn, everything old really is new again), there were three different elections from July of '32 to March of '33. The Nazis took 37% of the seats in July, dipped down to 32% in November, and then jumped to 43% the following March.
And then, what really kicked off martial law was the Reichstagg fire, which was blamed on Tankie Antifa Far-Left Communists and used to justify a Nazi-lead state of martial law. Liberals, Conservatives, and Fascists all united under a single banner in their staunch hatred of German Communism.
This was decades after German military police and Freikorps paramilitary groups under Hindenburg crushed the Spartacus League during the 1919 strike wave. The leaders of the movement - Rosa Luxemburg, Karl Liebknecht, and Franz Mehring - were executed by the police and the organizations disbanded under threat of further imprisonment/execution.
This, in comparison to the Beer Hall Pustch four years later, in which Hitler’s band of low-ranking military officers were tossed in the drunk tank for nine months, before returning to politics and rapidly climbing the ranks on the basis that he’d been martyred by (((bad Germans))) who secretly controlled the government.
Gotta wonder how this compares to the 2014 BLM protests, the subsequent police crackdown, and then the string of BLM leadership “suicides” where members of the movement shot themselves in the head right before being incinerated in their cars. Or the widespread bipartisan/corporate efforts to suppress labor activism in the rail, shipping, and Amazon distribution centers, the automotive industry, and the Starbucks-centric food service sectors.
Oh well, anyways!
Krauerking@lemy.lol 3 months ago
Yeah we have a lot more in common with pre third Reich Germany than people want to talk about and it’s not just a voting for a crazy shouting lunatic thats making the comparison so eerily similar.
The staunch refusal to try and go left and actually make things better and give people to rally behind is gonna do a lot of the heavy lifting of moving people to the right and it’s not appreciated or understood by the people who make the memes about voting for Biden regardless of anything.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 months ago
That does depend on who is making those memes. The bad faith propaganda meant to further divide the population targets all sides of all issues and it’s another very divisive issue. Any time I see someone making what should be a good point but in a way that will instead increase resistance, I suspect that’s what’s going on. It’s not a certain way to determine if that’s happening; anyone who has read How to Win Friends and Influence People knows that our instincts about persuasion are bad even before any bad faith is involved.
ssj2marx@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
I, personally, have learned from history, which is why I’ll be voting PSL in the upcoming election.
hark@lemmy.world 3 months ago
There is a good reason why it starts with “first they came for the communists”
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Shit, the Freikorps immediately turned around after murdering the Spartacus League and overthrew the SPD government who sent them out. The Kapp Putsch. And the SPD compromised with them.
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
You missed the moment where NSDAP and German communists kinda had intersecting constituencies, as in “angry young people with nothing good to do”.
Many stormtroopers were members of both at different points of their, eh, path.
Which was almost certainly a false flag operation by Nazis.
Such parallels always suck. They didn’t really have liberals in the Weimar republic. It was all conservatives, monarchists, nationalists, and some fishy social-democrats. And it was kinda authoritarian at every point.
Yep. You might consider that such a republic shouldn’t be so readily compared to the US.
I’m not saying future is cool.
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 3 months ago
We got monarchists. We got nationalists. We go conservatives. And most USians hate communism as an internalized educational message become reflex. We are not that far apart chronologically, either.
And not to mention the bunds and many American industrialists were very horny for Hitler.
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
This may happen, but not the same way, all I can say.
PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 3 months ago
2014 BLM protests? You’re almost a decade early there
Userpc933@lemmynsfw.com 3 months ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson_unrest
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
rollingstone.com/…/ferguson-death-mystery-black-l…
And the aftermath.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Are we going to ignore the Ferguson protests after the police slaying of Michael Brown?