rottingleaf

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• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Never give up⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  That’s true. It also doesn’t invalidate it if I do waste it though. OK, bye

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Never give up⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  You are making a good example of a person who maybe thinks they can argue in good faith but very clearly doesn’t, with emotional pressure and such.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Never give up⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  Well, this comment of yours doesn’t look like a good faith argument.

  What I meant is that it takes two sides for one. And when two people are ready to argue in good faith, one may downgrade the level of contention from “argue” to “discuss” without any loss.

  (For me and my sister it would still be argue, but we are just rude to each other.)

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Never give up⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  That would be try to attract people outside of social media, not try to divert them inside social media where you’ll waste energy

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Never give up⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  it necessarily widens the debate-space from an unopposed confident statement to a dialogue that the onlooker can take into consideration while making their own decision.

  That part would be right if we weren’t talking about social media, which are designed to neuter this effect.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Never give up⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  So who debates in good faith and how often?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Never give up⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  he goal isn’t to sway the fanatics, it’s to publicly quash their arguments. To sway curious onlookers away from fanaticism before they become fanatics themselves.

  Friendly reminder that the above is what I answered first.

  Sorry, but this is a load of bollocks. It’s you putting yourself above some “gullible people” and still using debate skills to deceive them, just in some “good” direction. Maybe you are really right, but they believe you for the wrong reasons, and the process itself doesn’t reinforce that you are right in any way.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Never give up⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  For my argument it’s sufficient that they are very much not the same.

  This is similar to saying that a big company leading in some area can be benevolent and do good things. Yes, it can, like DEC, Sun, at some point even IBM. Doesn’t prove the statement that every social institution and mechanism out there must be replaced by markets.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Never give up⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  As I’ve just said in two other comments, “changing someone’s mind” is just a return to barbarism and Middle Ages. When a few literate theology doctors would publicly “defeat” their opponents, the barely literate mass of their audience (monks, nobles and such) would watch and approve, and the illiterate mass would kinda get that those pesky heretics\infidels got totally owned by facts and logic.

  So any person arguing with that emotion and visible goal should just be left to eat other such ignorami. Nobody worth arguing with has those.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Never give up⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  The goal isn’t to sway the fanatics, it’s to publicly quash their arguments. To sway curious onlookers away from fanaticism before they become fanatics themselves.

  As I’ve said in another comment, this is return to Middle Ages. Debating skills have not much in common with reasoning skills.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Never give up⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  But - debates don’t better yourself. Only your debating skills in particular get better. It’s a return to Middle Ages with theologists publicly “defeating” heretic and Jewish and Muslim philosophy.

  And “turn” is an interesting word, making the association even stronger.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Devs should not be "forced to run on a treadmill until their mental or physical health breaks", says publisher of Manor Lords, citing how gamers seem to be trained to expect endless content work now⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  Which is why some degree of chaotic lawlessness (as in pirate disks being sold near subway entrances) is good for humanity and good for the market.

  And there’s no inherent moral value in intellectual property or copyright, so only whether it’s ultimately better or worse to have it is important.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Devs should not be "forced to run on a treadmill until their mental or physical health breaks", says publisher of Manor Lords, citing how gamers seem to be trained to expect endless content work now⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  I remember a few games which didn’t require such sacrifices from developers.

  Some even commercial. Like NWN, with people making their own campaigns without, you know, any effort spent by the developers of the game itself.

  Of course when the business model is milking players and making it problematic (either technically or by paradigm) to satisfy interest with community-made modifications, then all the load is on the devs or else the game becomes irrelevant. Well, guess whose fault that is.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Casual reminder⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  This may happen, but not the same way, all I can say.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Casual reminder⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  because of their deep and abiding fear of the Evil Russian Backed KDP party (god damn, everything old really is new again)

  You missed the moment where NSDAP and German communists kinda had intersecting constituencies, as in “angry young people with nothing good to do”.

  Many stormtroopers were members of both at different points of their, eh, path.

  And then, what really kicked off martial law was the Reichstagg fire,

  Which was almost certainly a false flag operation by Nazis.

  Liberals, Conservatives, and Fascists all united under a single banner in their staunch hatred of German Communism.

  Such parallels always suck. They didn’t really have liberals in the Weimar republic. It was all conservatives, monarchists, nationalists, and some fishy social-democrats. And it was kinda authoritarian at every point.

  This was decades after German military police and Freikorps paramilitary groups under Hindenburg crushed the Spartacus League during the 1919 strike wave. The leaders of the movement - Rosa Luxemburg, Karl Liebknecht, and Franz Mehring - were executed by the police and the organizations disbanded under threat of further imprisonment/execution.

  Yep. You might consider that such a republic shouldn’t be so readily compared to the US.

  I’m not saying future is cool.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Casual reminder⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  Yes, I referred to them among other things by “state-level scams”.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Casual reminder⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  They’ve also ran a few state-level scams and Ponzi schemes to have the funds for that military and other spending.

  Their business model was - step 1, cheat to have money, step 2, use money to rearm, step 3, conquer and loot, thus get funds that way, step 4 probably would be to force some peace, then rearm, then rinse and repeat, but they didn’t manage to capture a few strategic areas they needed in time. So they had fuel shortages, food shortages, and ultimately lost.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Casual reminder⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  Wtf I wrote in the end…

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Casual reminder⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  What do you expect, people think Hitler was good for most Germans and restored economy and made trains run on time, and the defeat part oh well. Because that’s what movies show. And that’s because for commies Hitler was just a variation of the west, probably less capricious, while for the west Hitler was bad, but good against commies. So both would show Nazis as being better than their opponent.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨To all you outside of the US...⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  It’s the usual catch - the leader of the losing side doesn’t get the post, but keeps power of his faction.

  While if that leader is no longer a leader, their personal power would be less even if the faction wins.

  Western Roman Empire had a similar story with Stilicho’s conviction and execution. The empire loses, but those who ate him get some power.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Anon has a typical everyday average British morning⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  Accountability to the government, you mean?

  BBC news on anything Armenian just stink.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Whats the difference between "English is not my first language" bad grammar, and "The only language I speak jmis english" bad grammar?⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  In Europe without even anything exotic - German, archaic Dutch and all insular Scandinavian languages, and all Slavic languages. I don’t know Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian, so I can’t talk about them, a plethora of cases, but genders - I don’t remember.

  The interesting thing to learn is that there are languages with more than 3 genders (M, F and thing). Or even more than 4 (M, F, N and thing), with additional genders being for kinds of animals, fish, plants, buildings, instruments. But I’ve only heard about that, haven’t studied any such language.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Whats the difference between "English is not my first language" bad grammar, and "The only language I speak jmis english" bad grammar?⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  It has only genders, and they don’t affect verb inflections.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Whats the difference between "English is not my first language" bad grammar, and "The only language I speak jmis english" bad grammar?⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  extremely gendered

  Compared to English - yeah, but in general there’s nothing extreme about genders in French.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Anon is a samurai⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  A glitch in my memory.

  I know.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Anon is a samurai⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  I meant as an art, as a hobby, as a sport, as a component of status.

  That said, the brain stimulation from playing can help you with that too.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Anon is a samurai⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  I’ve been interested in those. Sending an arrow is one moment. Swords are like a game or a dance.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Anon is a samurai⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  commit sudoku

  For those of us with ADHD, can we do with seppuku?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Anon is a samurai⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  They did, people who opposed firearms were usually of the “nutcase extremist” kind. Nothing like “the mainstream of the traditional society” or something.

  Also the funny part about Japanese traditions is that they don’t see Christianity as alien. It was quite popular, albeit prosecuted, in the “authentic” past.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Anon is a samurai⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  It’s rather that trained skills in general (with a bow, a sword, a musical instrument) were important.

  Can’t help thinking that with my particular set of disorders growing up in such a society (not as a peasant, God forbid) could be advantageous.

  And shooting an arrow from a composite bow is much more of a “moment of art” thing than waving a big knife around, so.