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Asafum@feddit.nl ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• pancakes@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This might be a hot take but any leadership selection where candidates are ranked in terms of how lucid they are is a bad time for all involved.

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  • bizzinho@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Being lucid is supposed to be a minimum requirement to even apply. But here we are.

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  • cumskin_genocide@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I need to shake the hands of potential presidents before I can make any judgements on who to vote for…

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    • Edge004@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Hank?

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      • samus12345@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        “My God…it’s limp!”

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      • cumskin_genocide@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yessir, I sell propane and propane accessories. Ronald Reagan was the best president we ever had.

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  • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah, I mean we’re like lobsters being slow boiled.

    This whole situation is mad, but it feels plausible because it’s been ratcheted up so gradually.

    Can you imagine the country’s reaction if they say this 2 decades ago?

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• ricecake@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Does it really count as “lucid” if you enunciate your lies, fabrications, misrecollections about… everything?

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  • samus12345@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No. He was not lucid, just loud.

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  • Mossheart@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Loud and lying every second word != lucid.

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  • Revonult@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    For his voters, his lies and fabrications are the truth. They don’t listen to fact checking because they are conditioned to see it as fake and a goverment ploy to fool them.

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    • ricecake@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      True. But they were going to have the same criticism of Biden regardless.

      It’s part of the reason I didn’t even watch. Looking over the polling, the debate didn’t really change anyone’s opinions on anything to any significant degree.

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      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        No-one is going to switch sides, but this performance may affect turnout.

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      • Asafum@feddit.nl ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I don’t think it has been long enough to have gathered enough data on that. Just watching it myself I could clearly see a low information voter seeing Trump as a more fit choice as Biden struggled to even form sentences :(

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      • CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What the polling likely isn’t capturing is how many people will ultimately choose not to vote out of despair, and that was the real threat the whole time.

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  • Asafum@feddit.nl ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It was a goddamn travesty that there was no fact checking by the button pushers moderators.

    Everything was allowed to stand as fact. It was disgusting :(

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• Soulg@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I see so many people screaming that primaries should have been held, especially today.

  Biden would have easily won the primaries.

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  • PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    He did win the primary in states that had them. There’s no if about it.

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    • skulblaka@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      He was the only option on my primary lmao

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      • PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The problem with Biden is they gave it to him because “he deserved it”. Life long politician. Vice president. That’s the only real reason the DNC handed the keys to him.

        The next election cycle is going to be interesting.

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  • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The only reason I agree with this is that I was still living in the Midwest during the 2016 primary. I moved to California during August of that year. Time after time, I got told by Midwestern democrats that Bernie just wasn’t electable. The coasts would have primaried Biden, but flyover country would have messed it up.

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    • dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Hmm…

      Image

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      • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Iowa, North Dakota, New York, and Massachusetts are the only ones that really surprise me in that grouping.

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• Mzpip@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yes Trump is old too but it was plain as day how much more lucid trump is than biden…

  And also an unrepentant crook and liar. Who also dreams of being a dictator and getting revenge on his “enemies”.

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  • Asafum@feddit.nl ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Preaching to the choir, but I’m worried about the ignorant people that simply don’t know that about him. All they see is an old bumbling feeble man vs a “strong man.” :(

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    • Mzpip@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      And unfortunately, the media is not informing people. I can’t believe there was no question last night about Project 2025. Just unbelievable.

      Plus no fact checkers. Again, unbelievable.

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    • recapitated@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      For sure. It’s a shame that being correct isn’t the strategy for electoral politics.

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  • p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah, this is not looking good, and I’m not impressed

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