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theAndrewJeff@lemm.ee âš1â© âšyearâ© ago
Hereâs my thing: I donât necessarily care what sort of game you make, I just want it to be feature-complete and technically solid (I.e. mostly bug-free). Whether thatâs a small indie game or a massive AAA game, those two things should be true.
I think what most people find frustrating is that the in-game is the most well developed part of most AAA releases nowadays, which often ship riddled with bugs.
I just want it to be feature-complete and technically solid
So, Diablo 4.
I wanted to get BG3, but the constant deep throating by neckbeards is making me gag. Now I donât want it for the same reason bigots wonât play TLOU2: politics.
Iâm sure BG3 is fantastic. Itâs also not a reason for people to tell me why I shouldnât enjoy the games I do.
Ah, the contrarian.
If you let other people ruin something for you, that's on you, not them. Especially if the "ruin" it by celebrating and enjoying it.
âI wonât try this game because itâs too highly reviewed!â What a weird hill to die on.
D4 seemed to have been great at launch, but the seasons and battle pass stuff ruin it for me. I donât like the idea of a game being on a timer and asking me to play the way they want me to play it. This is what BG3 does right. Itâs a game with many options and many ways to play. It never tells you how you should and you also donât need to pay extra for other crap. You get a complete experience from start to finish with no timers and nothing extra asked of you.
This is why I dropped Destiny, despite loving it to pieces.
I liked D2 in the beginning until I realized it was CoDâs multi-player put into its single player.
Maybe part of the issue is I left and came back, but I couldnât make sense of any sort of storytelling and âgo here, shoot thisâ stopped being fun.
Which sucks because Destiny has some amazing worldbuilding ideas.
Still salted that they removed my boi Xol
âŠwhat?
He opened with praising Diablo 4, feels low effort and should net a penalty, with a bad finish too. Iâll go with 4/10.
If heâs an actual shill from ActiBlizz I would vote a lot lower than 4/10, for having done such a poor job, based on that ratio.
Needs a bigger bait. If he opened with slamming Baldurâs Gate 3 right away it might have been a 7
BALDURâS GATE 3 IS WOKE TRASH
I dunno the part where they try to make themselves out to be some kind of hero over racism randomly because they didnât play a game has gotta decrease the score by at least a couple
Jesse, what the hell are you talking about?
You know, youâll go through life a lot happier if you stop restricting yourself from experiencing something just because itâs a popular thing.
Iâm a huge diablo fan. D4 fucking stinks and I went back to d2 res and picked up POE. Poe is 10/10 and exactly what I need to scratch this rng itch.
Huh? The game literally lets you play any way you want.
I feel you on the deepthroating shit. Itâs a great game, no doubt about it. But some of these articles act like itâs the second coming of Christ, and if I am to be entirely honest⊠Itâs not quite as good as the original games. Itâs lacking a lot of depth in the story telling (itâs almost entirely voiced so thereâs more brevity in any given conversation than the pages upon pages of text even a random nobody can give you in BG2), but makes up for it with mechanical depth.
I agree itâs a big deal for a major release to not have MTX or a season pass or other bullshit, and that should definitely be applauded. But some of the things Iâve seen said about the game are out right fraudulent. Like an article the other day saying it is the most polished AAA game in over a decade, which is absurd. The game is plagued with issues and the polish is literally the one thing I can not give it praises for. It even feels amateur in a lot of ways. Like it has many little issues I would not expect from a seasoned developer, and many bugs ranging from minor inconveniences to full blown game breaking stuff like scripts firing wrong leading to an outcome you didnât choose to take or characters becoming comoletely broken being unable to move or be interacted with.
Story is great. It actually feels like a remix of the first Baldurâs Gate story. Characters are some of the best Iâve seen in a long time. The combat is super fun, especially when you try to do weird random shit just to see if it works; cuz 90% of the time it does. There is a depth to the changes you can have on the world at large that are extremely cool and havenât been done on such a scale before in all the RPGs Iâve played over the yearsâŠ
Although that last part is where the previous talk about bugs really starts to drag the experience down. There have been so many points in my two playthroughs of the game where I took one path, but got the dialogue and changes to the world of another path. Like currently, my party keeps talking about one of the companions killing another. But they didnât; I stopped that from happening. So now this character is standing around in the background while other characters talk about her death. And thatâs not even the worst one Iâve encountered.
I think itâs funny talking about the second coming. It really is the second coming if anyone follows it. The thing is, itâs not extraordinary in the grand scheme of gaming. Itâs just not something weâve had in a long time on a large scale. It pretty much follows the norm for 2000s/90s games, but thatâs why itâs an outlier. We donât get those anymore. Bioware used to make games like it, but they donât now and theyâll tell you itâs not going to happen again despite technology being better. I understand that publishers will force them to do certain things, but most AAA studios have the capability of making games that follow the same standard (but maybe not scale) of BG3 if it werenât for publishers. They shouldnât copy it, but they should internalize that players want complete experiences in the box, and they want to be treated like adults who can think for themselves.
Like it has many little issues I would not expect from a seasoned developer
You wouldnât expect little bugs from a newly released AAA game? Really?
It sounds like you were expecting 0% bugs.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net âš1â© âšyearâ© ago
BG3 has still been riddled with bugs for me and since it doesnât have MTX or a store or anything, it feels kinda worse. At least I know why the crap riddled with MTX is rife with issues; what is BG3âs excuse?
I probably wouldnât mind the bugs so much if the whole game was shit. But the game is fucking awesome. I just want to play it without being frustrated by technical issues. đ©
LouNeko@lemmy.world âš1â© âšyearâ© ago
I actually agree with you. People praise BG3 as if it were the most perfect 10/10 video game in existence. Its far from it. It is riddled with bugs reaching from minor to game breaking. The best example is the very first few seconds of the game. The first thing the players are likely to interact with is the tadpole pool after awekening on the ship.
Minor spoiler
It explodes, knocking you back and causing damage.
As someone who made a few characters and played the intro section a lot, the animation is often times bugged and confusing. And thats the first interaction a player has with the game.
A few seconds later you stand in front of a door. Usually the door opens and you can go through. But sometimes the opening animation doesnât play. This happened on my very first time playing and I couldnât figure out where to go, because my first instinct wasnât to clip through the closed door. Things like this are absolutely unacceptable in the tutorial area.
Even though they already have full controller support it is very clear why the console release is delayed. The console player base is expected to be a lot more casual and unless they iron out all the confusing bugs they run the risk of people being frustrated and dropping the game.
And then there are other major things.
I know Iâm nitpicking here, but for a game that is as highly praised as this, I expect it also to nail all those minor things that other games have already figured out already (some of which were even their own older titles). Especially because it was Early Access and they had a lot of user feedback. I see it times and times again that studios apparently throw out all their previous knowledge of videogames and seemingly start from scratch on every title, making small stupid mistakes that could have been easily avoided. Itâs like the research process for video mechanics and UI never consists of actually looking at other games.
So for me, itâs a very pretty game, its a beautifully sounding game and even a very fun game. But nowhere near a 10/10. Itâs a 7/10 game. Fix the bugs to bump it up to 8/10 implement some QoL for 9/10 and release modding tools so the community can make it a 10/10.
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world âš1â© âšyearâ© ago
You realize that smaller companies have to do triage and prioritize what theyâre working on, yes? Take bugs/ enhancements in a certain order? And usually the major things get taken care of first before the minor things are.
Also, some of the things you ask for, they may just not agree with you as being needed in the game.
Have you submitted that list to them for their consideration, directly (Github, etc.)?
Kolanaki@yiffit.net âš1â© âšyearâ© ago
I canât say for anyone else, but Karlach is hot because of that infernal engine she has for a heart. :P
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world âš1â© âšyearâ© ago
Stupid question, but have you been letting Steam do game updates?
Unless youâve changed the default settings, you have to let Steam do updates while not playing any games through Steam. By default it wonât do any updates in the background.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net âš1â© âšyearâ© ago
Yes, everything updates automatically. Iâve gotten all the updates so far. Only a few of the changes made in any of them actually affected me. Most of the things Iâve experienced have yet to be addressed.
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world âš1â© âšyearâ© ago
I was going to reply humorously with a comment along the lines of you should be moving from a technical to a spiritual solution, an exorcism perhaps, but I donât want to kick somebody when theyâre down, for the sake of comedy.