Even then, it’s not really accurate anyway. A cocktail is a bunch of ingredients mixes together. You can usually get them without the alcohol if you ask for it (obviously this doesn’t work for every drink). They list of cocktails is so large because there’s a lot of ways to combine a few ingredients to make different things. They don’t actually stock that many types of drinks or anything. They’re made on demends, and can usually be modified if you ask.
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EatATaco@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I feel like this joke would have landed better 5, or maybe even 3 years ago. Every even remotely fancy restaurant I go into has jumped on the mocktail bandwagon and offers plenty of options for people avoiding alcohol.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
Cocktails without alcohol cost way too much for what they are. That would be like paying 15 bucks for a burger without meat.
Restaurants sometimes also have like dozens of types of beer, wine, etc. but the best non-alcoholic they can do is a water or a coca cola softdrink?
ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
If you can remove the alcohol from any “cocktail” and still have more than just flavored ice or a dirty glass, you were drinking slightly alcoholic mocktails the whole time.
Old Fashioned mocktail is a cherry on top of a large ice cube that you’ve used to bludgeon some sugar and an orange.
A Sazerac mocktail is akin to an empty glass someone just drink a sweet lemony drink from. You don’t get the lemony drink, just the dirty glass.
A margarita mocktail is salty lime flavored ice. This is basically a daquiri mocktail too, adding a strawberry seems popular.
A Manhattan mocktail is a sweetened cherry in an otherwise empty glass.
A mojito mocktail is a bit more substantial, minty sugar water with a hint of lime.
A mint julep mocktail, again just minty sugar water.
A white Russian mocktail is just a glass of cream over ice.
A mimosa mocktail is just a nearly empty glass of orange juice.
The non-alcoholic parts of a cocktail are rarely more than a quarter of the volume if they’re made properly. Most cocktails are a half oz of sugar water and a citrus flavor. The other 2/3 of the volume (not counting the ice) is alcohol. Just order a soda, soda water (with or without a garnish), tea, or my favorite a Topo Chico and lime.
WoahWoah@lemmy.world 6 months ago
One virgin martini please. Stirred.
handed cool glass with three olives in it Thank you, kind sir!
roguetrick@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Hey man, over half of that vodka is water anyway, so it’s all just a glass of water with some bitters.
Lenggo@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I was just in Dublin and saw Guinness 0.0 in a bunch of places. Things are definitely shifting if that can exist in Ireland.
PostingInPublic@lemmy.world 7 months ago
That’s great news! Occasionally I browse the NA beers and last week I thought how great it would be to be able to drink a Guinness! Maybe it arrives here sometime.
TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 7 months ago
they do sell them in the US
sanguinepar@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’ve not had it, but someone (who also likes regular Guinness) told me that Guinness zero was genuinely great. Need to check it out sometime.
timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
It really is. Like a lot of non alcoholic is crap (maybe if you’re a rare drinker it’s passable and unnoticeable). But Guinness 0.0 tastes very close to real Guinness. I’m not sure i could tell the difference in a blind test honestly.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 months ago
At least in North America. I get the sense Europe still still thinks drinking is cool.
beardown@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Alcohol has been an essential facilitating element of human socialization in every human civilization since Mesopotamia
Which is cool
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 months ago
Human sacrifice was also pretty popular for a pretty long time, as was autocracy. Obviously alcohol isn’t that bad, but it’s not a good argument on it’s own.
Also, factually inaccurate. I’m not sure how much evidence of alcohol there is in the new world civilisations, and Islam, which forbids it, has been around for a millennia and a half.
InternetPerson@lemmings.world 6 months ago
Alcohol isn’t that bad, obviously, if bad at all,
Depends on what you understand by “bad”. Regarding health, it certainly is.
beardown@lemm.ee 6 months ago
You can’t ban something unless it exists and is a part of your society. Alcohol existed prior to Islam in Arabia and still exists there today. Legal Prohibitions do not cause a substance to disappear.
Alcohol is just fermented grain. Everyone had grain. Therefore everyone had alcohol. Including the Americas
So yes, there is evidence of alcohol consumption in the New World prior to European contact. Indigenous peoples in various parts of the Americas developed fermented beverages from local ingredients long before Europeans arrived.
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North America: Various tribes produced alcoholic drinks from berries, maize, and other native plants. For example, the Apache made tiswin from corn, and the Chicha was popular among many tribes in North America.
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Central America: The Aztecs brewed pulque from the sap of the agave plant. This drink was not only consumed for enjoyment but also held religious significance.
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South America: Chicha, a beer made from maize, was widely consumed across the Andean region. This beverage was integral to social and ceremonial functions.
These indigenous beverages varied widely in production, ingredients, and cultural significance but demonstrate that alcohol consumption was indeed present in the New World prior to European contact.
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OozingPositron@feddit.cl 6 months ago
InternetPerson@lemmings.world 6 months ago
Which is cool
I disagree for health and a bunch of other reasons.
beardown@lemm.ee 6 months ago
There’s a loneliness epidemic and low alcohol consumption rates are a contributor to that
Getting drunk and then talking to a bunch of people you don’t know is how people meet people. That’s an essential and long running aspect of human socialization.
If you regularly talk to new people and make friends in other ways then that’s fine. But clearly the majority of Lemmy/Reddit users aren’t doing that. And young people in general aren’t doing it either. Meeting strangers irl and chatting them up is how you make friends and alcohol facilitates that
criticon@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
Of course they do. They sell them equally expensive without the expensive ingredients!
RGB3x3@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Basically water and a little juice, and they charge $8.
Floey@lemm.ee 6 months ago
You are paying for way more than the sum of the parts when you order a cocktail, I’m not really sure why you’d suddenly be concerned about doing so when it comes to a mocktail.
can@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Really? They’re kind a third of the price here.
dustyData@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Not everyone does it. Shady places charge equal price for virgin cocktails.
roguetrick@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Price of drinks have very little relation to the price of alcohol.