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Comment on Euro bottles are so much better now

MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Why?

It stays open, you can drink from it, you can pour from it, you can pour into it.

What action does the cap staying attached prevent, warranting its detachment?

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agressivelyPassive@feddit.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Maybe your bottles are different, but the bottles here in Germany have a very short “leash” and are often connected to the right in two places, so it constantly pushes in your face when drinking.

If an actual problem would have been solved, I’d be fine with it, but it’s just a pointless law which only exists to create the illusion of progress and shift blame onto consumers.

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- 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Rotate the bottle 90 degrees so the cap goes to the side of your face rather than mashing it into your nose.
  
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  - agressivelyPassive@feddit.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    …then it scratches my cheek.
    
    Why is it so hard to understand that a useless piece of plastic in your face might be unpopular?
    
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    9point6@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I guess because I’ve got used to it now and it’s entirely a non-issue in my life, I wouldn’t say it scratches my cheek at all.
    
    If it means less microplastic in the sea, I’m all for it
    
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    jvilhuber@feddit.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    If that’s the biggest annoyance in your life, I want your life!
    
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gerryflap@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Many of the new bottle caps I encounter will actively push back into the closed position, meaning I have to keep them out of the way when pouring if I don’t want to pour over the cap. Since I tend to encounter them on drink cartons rather than bottles, because I don’t drink soda etc, it becomes even more annoying. Bottles you can turn whichever way, but drink cartons need to be kept at a certain angle for optimal pouring. Quite often the cap is in the way and there isn’t really a nice place to put it.

This is even more frustrating because I never lost these caps anyway, I always threw them away with the packaging. I understand that it probably helps in the bigger picture, but for me personally it solves nothing and is incredibly annoying.

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- Wild_Mastic@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Funnily enough, I despise with every cell of my body the first cap. When opening the first time, it always create a mess by shooting liquid everywhere. And after that, it feels fo flimsy that it would break any second.
  
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  - gerryflap@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Hmmm yeah, now that you mention it I do remember a few occasions of launching soy milk throughout the kitchen. Still I prefer it over the second one though. After it’s been opened once, it’s much less in the way.
    
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- Drummyralf@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Wait, the Dutch Optimel brand doesn’t have attached caps. I think? Or I just mindlessly rip the caps off so they are loose? It doesn’t make any sense to have those be attached with an angle like that.
  
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  - MeThisGuy@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    it does
    
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Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The cap pokes my face if I try to drink from it without tearing off the cap. When I tear it off there’s then a sharp edge that pokes my hand every time I open or seal it.

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- lemmylommy@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  With the bottles I have seen so far you can just push the cap a bit further so it is at an 180 degree angle and out of the way when drinking from the bottle.
  
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  - barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yep exactly they latch in a wide open position.
    
    At this point there might still be experimental versions around, stuff which companies made and want to use up, but sooner than later you’ll only see the good, successful versions on bottles. The rest is muscle memory and, if you don’t have the physical/mechanical intelligence to figure out a latching mechanism yourself, learning by observing other people successfully not stabbing their faces.
    
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- MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Valid, I’ve mostly been pouring soda into glasses, and at least with my face, that doesn’t happen.
  
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- dingus@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  This is such a bizarre design. I wonder why they don’t just make a bit of a longer “leash” attaching the cap to the ring.
  
  Here in the US, I haven’t seen these bottles yet, but I wonder if we’ll be getting them at some point. :p
  
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  - Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It’s attached by two “leashes” and if you yank it a bit the other rips off making it pretty much what you described but it’ll still tangle all over your face when you try to drink straight from the bottle and also now you have the sharp bit poking you every time you screw and unscrew the cap. This is not the only design we have. I just happen to shop at LIDL and their bottles are all like this. Some other designs are slightly better.
    
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cosmicrookie@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It gets in the way of everything all the time

That said, i have seen good and bad examples of this.

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- MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  No it doesn’t? I buy a bottle of something every day, these have never been trouble. Not once.
  
  The first time I noticed it I thought, “neat” and that’s it.
  
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  - HowManyNimons@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It seems other people have different experiences. I find the caps mildly annoying as they do seem to get in the way when pouring and refilling, and they are slightly more difficult to screw back on to the bottle.
    
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  - Hol@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Out of the way of anything you might use a bottle for.
    
    Everything except drinking from it! The scratchy cap touching my face and the sugary drips falling on me detract from the whole experience.
    
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BorgDrone@lemmy.one ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The ones on the soda bottles are attached so closely to the ring that it makes it hard to put the cap back on. Because they are attached on one side, you always put the cap on at an angle which prevents you from screwing it closed. You have to pull the cap up a bit while closing to ensure it goes on straight. It’s a minor annoyance but half of the time it takes multiple attempts to put the cap back on.

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Lemvi@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The people complaining about that are mostly the same as the ones who complained that the masks were “suffocating” them during covid.

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- Summzashi@lemmy.one ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Oh shut the fuck up, that’s not true at all. It can be annoying without it being some kind of nefarious political issue. What a cynical person you are.
  
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- Virku@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  That’s not the case in Norway. We hate them equally. I hate it with a passion. Wore my mask dilligently without a fuss. Still do when I am sick and need to go to a shop.
  
  I find it especially infuriating when driving a car. It is so hard getting it to seal properly one handed now.
  
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- cosmicrookie@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  How in the world did you make that assumption?
  
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unlogic@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
On larger bottles when I pour into a glass the attached lid always swings round. And it’s awkward to hold it wwhile pouring.

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espentan@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
On many bottles I’ve encountered the ring that keeps the cap attached to the bottleneck has been quite loose, so you rotate the cap up/left/right, thinking you’re good to pour, then as you get going the cap slips back down, ensuring you distribute whatever you were pouring all over the the table.

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