Comment on Voyager 1

• jaybone@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is why slack is bullshit. And discord. We should all go back to email. It can be stored and archived and organized and get off my lawn.

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  • Artyom@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s not Slack’s fault. It is a good platform for one-off messages. Need a useless bureaucratic form signed? Slack. Need your boss to okay the afternoon off? Slack. Need to ask your lead programmer which data structure you should use and why they’re set up that way? Sounds like the answer should be put in a wiki page, not slack.

    All workflows are small components of a larger workplace. Emails also suck for a lot of things. They probably wouldn’t have worked in this case, memos are the logical upgrade from emails where you want to make sure everyone receives it and the topic is not up for further discussion.

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    • jaybone@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sorry, email is still better for all of those things. Except the wiki page, of course.

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    • ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      memos are the logical upgrade from emails where you want to make sure everyone receives it

      uh, email is memos? email is so memos that ibm’s proprietary email management solution Lotus Notes calls the transaction “create memo” where outlook calls it “new message”.

      and the topic is not up for further discussion.

      bit rude, imo.

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  • deweydecibel@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I mean, unironically, yeah.

    It’s not even that we need to go back to email. The problem isn’t moving on from outdated forms of communication, it’s that the technology being pushed as a replacement for it is throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

    Which is to say nothing of the fact that all of these new platforms are proprietary, walled off, and in some cases don’t make controlling the data easy if you’re not hosting it (and their searches are trash).

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    • sudo42@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      all of these new platforms are proprietary, walled off, and in some cases don’t make controlling the data easy if you’re not hosting it

      You’ve just discovered their business case. Almost all new business es these days specialize in insinuating themselves into an existing process in order to co-opt it and charge rents.

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  • militaryintelligence@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Even then, you get banned from Google for some reason, what then?

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    • aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      1. Don’t use google as your email provider
      2. Keep backups of your email (you can do this on gmail, too)

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• SomethingBurger@jlai.lu ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Microsoft is 49.

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  • xantoxis@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah. Technically I’m not talking about Microsoft, as their primary product is the OS and they are not purely Internet-based. IBM, of course, is much older than that and also has some Internet products, as does every software company.

    In my statement “Internet company” means a company whose only product is SaaS on the Internet; i.e. someone who, if they went away, their product would disappear with them.

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    • Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I guess it is hard to imagine abb internet cilantro laying that long mostly because the hasn’t been around that long, it’s only been 31 31 years since it went public. A year later Amazon was formed. I would bet money Amazon and Google easily make it to 50. Along with many many others.

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      • xantoxis@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Google is actually the sine qua non of what I’m talking about. I’ll concede that it’s possible Google as a corporate entity will still exist in 2048 (it was founded in 1998). But Google has undergone such a drastic and dystopian management change that it’s almost not even the same company now–

        –but that isn’t relevant to what I’m actually talking about, which is the products. The proposition that Slack logs would still be around 50 years from now was what catalyzed my quip. Google kills everything it makes, usually quickly. Will we be able to look at Google Reader logs in 2048? Or–even closer to the target–Google Wave logs? Google Podcasts? Google Stadia? (I could go on.)

        At the end of the day it was just a quip, but I fully expect the SaaS companies you currently think of as indestructible titans to be on the dustheap of history in 20 years, let alone 50.

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      • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Match group (owners of nearly every dating site and app) are very likely to endure 50 years, and they are, afaik, 100% internet company, plug it off and they disappear without a trace

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  • imgcat@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And most microsoft products surely can run 50 years with no glitches.

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  • noodlejetski@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    fingers crossed!

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  • MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They were a software for decades before they became an “internet company”.

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• nxdefiant@startrek.website ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  IBM is 100, but the Internet didn’t exist in 1924, so we’ll say the clock starts in 1989. I’m pretty sure at least MS or IBM will be around in 15 years.

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  • jaybone@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What does IBM even do anymore? I’m guessing they just support all of their legacy products that customers are locked into.

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    • freeman@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Bought Red hat and is trying to lock down it’s users.

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    • nxdefiant@startrek.website ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s basically an investment fund that runs the companies it invests in, like Alphabet, but with a bigger mix of real estate and finance investments thrown in.

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      • jaybone@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What’s a company they invest in?

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