It is worth pointing out that the national socialist party existed before Hitler. As Hitler gained power he forced out the true socialist. By the time he was in power there was no more real socialism in the party.
Socialism is an inherently globalist ideology. Any attempt to replace that with nationalism will lead to results just like the Nazis. Or the CCP, for that matter.
The Nazis weren’t good guys, even before the takeover and the emphasis on eugenics and anti-semitism.
Oh never said they were, I just think it important for people to remember how narcissistic autocrats tend to rewrite history so they were always there first, that is their ideas. They are almost always not the founder. They take popular movements/ideas/products, force there way in and then came it was always theirs.
It is a good reminder for when there are modern examples.
Ah yes of course, how could one possibly assume unkindness of someone just because they’re a Nazi. It’s just short for two common words, surely we can’t assume genocidal intent or otherwise fairly criticize anyone for something so trivial
accideath@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Nazi is short for national socialist. That wouldn’t per se suggest unkindness by name alone. The appearance is deceptive, of course.
Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 2 years ago
It is worth pointing out that the national socialist party existed before Hitler. As Hitler gained power he forced out the true socialist. By the time he was in power there was no more real socialism in the party.
DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 years ago
Socialism is an inherently globalist ideology. Any attempt to replace that with nationalism will lead to results just like the Nazis. Or the CCP, for that matter.
The Nazis weren’t good guys, even before the takeover and the emphasis on eugenics and anti-semitism.
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 2 years ago
“Globalist” is a white supremacist dogwhistle for Jews.
Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Oh never said they were, I just think it important for people to remember how narcissistic autocrats tend to rewrite history so they were always there first, that is their ideas. They are almost always not the founder. They take popular movements/ideas/products, force there way in and then came it was always theirs.
It is a good reminder for when there are modern examples.
abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 years ago
No, it was a joke. Like the “are we the baddies?” meme
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 years ago
Some, I assume, are good people.
theangryseal@lemmy.world 2 years ago
You know they’re not sending their best. 🙄
DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 years ago
It kind of does, if you follow the implications and start asking how they resolve the oxymorons.
Turns out, by ignoring one of the words entirely.
bitwaba@lemmy.world 2 years ago
I feel like they modify each other.
Socialism is for the betterment of the community. Nationalism allows them to define who is included in that community.
NucleusAdumbens@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Ah yes of course, how could one possibly assume unkindness of someone just because they’re a Nazi. It’s just short for two common words, surely we can’t assume genocidal intent or otherwise fairly criticize anyone for something so trivial
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 years ago
It’s also the Cletus of the time and place.