Except that basically all Israeli politicians have made statements saying they have genocidal intentions.
Comment on Germans: what genocide?
Johanno@feddit.de 7 months ago
I as a german asked an expert on that topic. Chatgpt. According to chatGPT there is no genocide if you don’t kill them with the intention to wipe them from the planet. So if for example you drop accidentally poison into their water because you mixed the Botox and sugar bottle in the water station then even if they all die it is not a genocide.
And since chatgpt is infallable this is the only truth.
amzd@kbin.social 7 months ago
nonailsleft@lemm.ee 7 months ago
All?
amzd@kbin.social 7 months ago
The charge document includes quotes of expression of genocidal intent of the following state officials:
- Prime Minister of Israel
- President of Israel
- Israeli Minister of Defence
- Israeli Minister for National Security
- Israeli Minister of Energy and Infrastructure
- Israeli Minister of Finance
- Israeli Minister of Heritage
- Israeli Minister of Agriculture
- Deputy Speaker of the Knesset and Member of the Foreign Affairs and Security
Committee - Israeli Army Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories (‘COGAT’)
- Israeli Army Reservist Major General, former Head of the Israeli National Security
Council, and adviser to the Defence Minister
You can read the actual quotes in the application document in chapter D.
Raykin@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Upvoted but I wish you would have run your post through ChatGPT as well my friend. That was hard to read.
Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
Comma rule in German is so fucked that normal humans just give up and never use any.
KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Comma rules in German are logical and follow set rules. When I asked my English teacher about comma rules in English, she said she’s not teaching them cause they’re too complicated.
When I asked my English teacher during my foreign exchange year in the US, she basically said the same.Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
As a native English speaker, I barely understand comma rules either. The only person I know that I would expect to always get commas right has a Master’s degree in English. The extremely oversimplified rule I was taught as a young child was to add a comma anywhere you would naturally pause while speaking. Doesn’t always work, but it works well enough.
Johanno@feddit.de 7 months ago
I could use german grammar to set the commas, but then I would have probably 10 to many for English grammar. So I tend to use less in English.
verdigris@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
None of those sentences needed commas, they’re just not constructed very clearly.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
I, as a German, asked an expert on that topic: ChatGPT. According to ChatGPT, there is no genocide if you don’t kill them with the intention to wipe them from the planet. So, if for example you drop accidentally poison into their water because you mixed the botox and sugar bottle in the water station, then even if they all die it is not a genocide.
And since ChatGPT is infallible, this is the only truth.
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Six commas, colon, capitalization, “infallible”. Infallible like my editing 🤓 & dunt u disagreeme
Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
I’ve counted 6 missing commas.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Yeah, genocide often requires intent. So I guess this could be more of a massacre than a genocide.
But there’s quite a few different definitions, some are more lax.
melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Except for all the politicians, from shutzstaffel commanders to the (Hitler apologist) PM’s PR guy saying exactly this, using words like cexterminate’ ‘wipe from the earth’ ‘every last one’ and many individual storm troopers posting on their social media, or even their ‘civilians’.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I really doubt their aim with this thing is to destroy all the Palestinians, but if you can provide those quotes that show that that’s their stated aim then I’d definitely consider this a genocide.
melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Teeeeensy nitpick: there are two definitions of genocide that have ever mattered. Two. Not many. Two.
Lemkins original, much much broader, definition, And the one you’re familiar with, adopted by the UN because like everyone on the permanent security council thing had an interest in the definition being a little more narrow. Under which the way the Palestinian people are being exterminated absolutely counts.
Interestingly, by lemkin’s broader definition, making the shutzstaffel stop killing Palestinians might constitute a genocide of the kapostanis; it would be destroying every trace of their culture, and the means of its reproduction.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I didn’t say there were plenty “that have ever mattered” so it’s not really a nitpick towards me.
melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I’m sure your high school had its own? Doesn’t count.
There are plenty of abbreviations. But those aren’t separate content; just condensed versions.
There are two.
sudo@programming.dev 7 months ago
I know your being sarcastic but I just want to point out that this is incorrect
here is no genocide if you don’t kill them with the intention to wipe them from the planet
If you plan to cull a demographic by only 10% its still genocide according to the UN. This is the definition that South Africa’s case at the ICJ will be ruled under. Under this definition all ethnic cleansing requires genocide.
xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Fire Nation: “We never did the Air Nomad genocide. We didn’t intend to kill them all, we only intended to kill one guy”
A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 7 months ago
To meet the legal definition of genocide, you also have to have the intent to destroy a particular group of people. So, legally speaking, your example isn’t genocide according to any source.
I don’t know the motives and stuff behind the Israel/Palestine conflict or how it started, but if it doesn’t involve an intent to destroy Palestinians specifically, I guess I could see how that take is valid. Like, the war in Ukraine is egregious too, but that by itself doesn’t make it a genocide.
DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 7 months ago
Deliberate displacement of particular ethnic or religious groups is also recognized as genocide. ChatGPT is wrong, and needs to read the UN definition.
letsgo@lemm.ee 7 months ago
How it started: the Ottomans sided with the Nazis, so when they lost, the Ottomans also lost their land and the Allies got it, following the usual war rule where the winner wins the land. Dividing up the land is where the British Mandate for Palestine came from, under which we gave 2/3 of the land to the Arabs (Transjordan) and 1/3 of the land to Israel. But the Arabs refused to accept this and started the first of a series of wars against Israel. The Arabs, now also partially known as Palestinians, have continually refused to accept any peace deal, starting wars whenever possible and so far losing every one of them. Israel has repeatedly accepted peace deals, even at the cost of land, but it only works if both sides agree, which they don’t: the only deal the Arabs want is all the land and no Israel, which also means no Jews (proof: look at the Jewish communities within existing Arab states (TLDR: non-existent or shrinking)), which means the Arabs are hellbent on a genocide of all the Jews, and are determined to achieve that or die trying.
nonailsleft@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I don’t know the motives behind the Israel/Palestine conflict or how it started
Religion
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
Good thing then that Israeli politicians haven’t been on record saying that Gaza needs to be “wiped from the face of the Earth”!