Back when they just began recognizing it, they noted peculiar traffic. Desktop websites, batch downloads normally unavailable to that system. This assumes that you utilized the internal hotspot system and didn’t create a separate one. Now? Not sure whether their system is more robust but it should, theoretically, be possible to obfuscate your traffic using third party hotspot software. No clue where to look for that anymore.
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hellothere@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
How do they know?
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
sparky1337@ttrpg.network 3 months ago
I used to routinely use 100gb of data on my jailbroken sprint iPhone. Did that for almost 3 years. Never heard a peep from them. But this was forever ago.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
If you used the package I think you did, that’s not unusual. Absolutely will not remember the name but there were numerous tweaks that just flipped the hotspot switch but a couple that allowed you to use a hotspot without directly using the inbuilt function. One was free and broadly used.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
That was great, and you didn’t have to pay some extra tethering fee every month either (or something like that, it was so long ago for me).
sandalbucket@lemmy.world 3 months ago
TTL in the packet header is 29 instead of 30
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
Well that’s an easy fix.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 3 months ago
If you root your phone and install a custom rom, you can get around it and they can’t tell.
If you’re factory, it sends that hotspot info to them.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 months ago
You have to turn that feature on.
hellothere@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Could you install a different OS like suggested here dubvee.org/comment/1855949 ?
ptz@dubvee.org 3 months ago
Yeah, installing a new OS on a phone isn’t something you do easily like on a PC.
You have to unlock the bootloader, which requires an unlock code from the manufacturer, then you have to factory reset it, and that’s even if your phone/carrier allows it. Many don’t (which is why it’s so hard for me to replace my phone…grrr).
So yeah, installing a new OS on your phone is typically going to require quite a bit of effort and some level of commitment as well as a device that’s bootloader unlockable and supported by alternate OS (each device and model requires a custom build).
It’s…a whole thing.
TWeaK@lemm.ee 3 months ago
and that’s even if your phone/carrier allows it.
This is why you should buy the phone outright yourself then get a SIM only deal, rather than paying for your phone in contract.
FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 3 months ago
I haven't done it in a while, but it kinda depends on the phone, some were very easy to flash in the earlier days of Android.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Maybe, but it’s not worth it just for a few days, which is all I’ll need it for. I just forked over $15 for another 10 gb.
warm@kbin.earth 3 months ago
$15 for 10GB?! USA phone bills are extortionate!
TWeaK@lemm.ee 3 months ago
It’s worth it for more than a few days, custom ROMs ftw.
Personally my minimum features are:
- Long press back button to force close and kill an app.
- Call recording.
All the other stuff and customisation is just tasty gravy.
bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 3 months ago
negotiate. i called my last carrier from my new carriers retail store front. they practically begged me to stay and said they'd give me everything i asked for.
ptz@dubvee.org 3 months ago
There’s different internal network configs (APNs), and hotspot uses a different one than regular mobile data. ( or at least it used to).
LineageOS, and maybe some other custom ROMs, wouldn’t do that and would put the hotspot and mobile data on the same APN to get around that.
wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
Can confirm, switching to Graphene solved this problem for me a long while ago.
Chronographs@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Doesn’t unlocking the bootloader break Google Pay?
wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
Don’t know, wouldn’t touch that with a 10 foot pole.
silent_squirrel@feddit.de 3 months ago
You can lock the bootloader again after the flashing process is done(because it will add the signing key of the new OS), but unfortunately the NFC Payments in Google Pay still won’t work because Google only allows it on ‘certified’ Android systems (aka only the preinstalled OS)
ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 3 months ago
You can in theory still use Google Pay with a Magisk module called Play Integrity Fix and using a fingerprint from a different phone to pass Basic and Device integrity. I’m currently doing it on my Pixel 7 Pro.
But it has a steep learning curve and is a temporary solution that will disappear in roughly a year once Google sunsets legacy integrity methods and starts requiring Strong integrity, which can’t be faked under known methods. Google is also actively disabling fingerprints that are being spoofed, making the whole thing frustrating and even more temporary even when it works.
Just let us use our devices, sheesh.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
Ugh. I was dumb and got a Samsung that was offered to me for cheap on the spot. If I had done any research I would have learned that there’s no alternative OS options. Now I’m stuck with it, because I’m poor, so I just try to avoid using it. I should keep an eye out for something used that’s compatible.
eco_game@discuss.tchncs.de 3 months ago
While it’s not at the same level as Graphene OS, Samsung is pretty well supported by Lineage OS. AFAIK at least in Europe Samsung phones have an unlockable bootloader, but YMMV.
Socsa@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Even on my unlocked, non vendor phone it seems to not recognize hotspot data as different for some reason.
Chainweasel@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’m still hoping for LineageOS on the Nord N30 but I can’t Even find a stock ROM to root it.