Comment on Don’t you lie to me

• cattywampas@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  For what crime?

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  • djdarren@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Picking up a wallet? A succulent bursting wallet?

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  • tmyakal@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Theft. Pickpocketing. You’ve got a wallet that isn’t yours, so you must have stolen it. Nevermind that the office arresting you put it there and watched you pick it up, because it’s your word against there’s.

    It was a quick and easy way for cops to hit their quota, even if the DA didn’t end up prosecuting. Although usually they’d at least try to threaten you into a plea just to help their conviction rate.

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    • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Great way for an officer to get fired and the city to be sued. Without proof that they didn’t attempt to return it to the owner there is no theft.

      Also most states have a time period for returning such property, and it isn’t minutes it’s days

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      • tmyakal@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        …what? Where do you live that cops get fired? Certainly not the US.

        And, yes, people have sued the NYPD. Often and repeatedly. That has only changed how they define their practices, not what those practices are. For example, NYPD officially stopped having quotas for stop-and-frisks after the lawsuit ~15 years ago, but everyone inside the department knows that if you have the fewest stops, you’ll get worse assignments and are more likely to be passed over for promotion.

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    • ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      My word against where’s?

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      • tmyakal@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Thanks. I should just stop using lemmy on my phone. Autocorrect continues to make me look stupid.

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  • sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I found an article that backs this up. Still not sure precisely what the crime is. Theft, I guess?

    policemag.com/…/nypd-lucky-bag-sting-snares-300-o…

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    • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      From the article they consider it to be theft if not turned in with all contents. So not arrested for picking it up, but also entrapment bullshit in my opinion since police love to keep unclaimed cash for themselves. Criminalizing that for regular people removes competition.

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      • tmyakal@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The article is from a site called “Police Mag” and quotes NYPD representatives. I would take what they say about how successful, fair, and justly enforced these stings were with a grain of salt.

        It literally says they stop-and-frisk if the “perpetrator” didn’t immediately return the wallet to the officer. On a crowded street or subway, it’s very possible to see a wallet on the ground and not see who dropped it, and now you’re getting pulled into one of the most bullshit warrantless search practices of modern policing?

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      • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Well that’s easy to solve. Turn on phone camera as you walk up to it, look around and capture the surroundings, and then pick it up.

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      • cattywampas@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The situation described in the article would not be entrapment. Presenting the opportunity to commit a crime does not constitute entrapment, usually you have to be coerced in some way.

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    • cattywampas@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ok that’s a little different than being arrested for picking up a random wallet on the sidewalk.

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