Comment on Cool Japan 🌸

• Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If you tie the availability of housing to whatever language someone speaks instead of something tangible related to the respective person, it’s racism.

  I used Google Lens to translate the bottom text. Do you think that if i would go in there using my phone to translate i would get a room for the night?

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  • vathecka@lemmy.radio ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is a restaurant, not housing

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    • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I realized my mistake, but i think i wouldn’t get food either.

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  • BlackVenom@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Not being able to communicate, participate, doesn’t help either side. Buying a house, without being able to communicate is on its way to forming and insular community and not simply being denied service that is otherwise open to the public.

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    • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But this sign is for a restaurant, not for buying property. This is simply racism because they don’t want anyone outside of their cultural circle intruding..

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      • Viceversa@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Culture is not a race.

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      • BlackVenom@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It was your example

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  • Viceversa@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    racism

    Language is not a race.

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• PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Do you believe that anyone existing in America must speak English and only English? If a couple next to you at a cafe are speaking French to each other do you tell them to go back home?

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  • Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Do you believe that anyone existing in America must speak English

    Yeah, eventually. If I’m going to live in a country indefinitely, I’m going to try to learn their language. If I’m in France for more than a year, I’m going to try to learn French. I’d expect the same of friends and family. It’s not racist to expect people living in a place long term to be able to converse with the locals.

    If they’re working here for just a summer or two and spending most of the year in another country, no.

    and only English?

    No?

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    • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, eventually. If I’m going to live in a country indefinitely, I’m going to try to learn their language.

      We’re not talking about eventually or indefinitely we’re literally just talking about visiting a restaurant for a meal

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      • Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Sorry, you asked a question that could have been seen as different from that context, so I was very explicit.

        No, for just visiting you don’t need to learn the language. If you plan to stay long term, you should learn the local language.

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    • Goodeye8@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So shouldn’t all Americans speak (or at least learn) native American languages? You know, on the account that English isn’t native to America. Neither is Spanish for that matter. Nor French.

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    • diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They are even racist to their own… Also you seem to be cursed. So you need to watch the video.

      So you need to watch the video.

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  • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    America is a country founded upon immigration, so it’s not a comparable example. In broad terms, Japan is historically a fairly homogenous nation ethnically, culturally, and linguistically (and yes, I know those are very broad terms, I’m talking relative to North American countries like the US and Canada).

    If the 1600s-1700s had gone differently, and North America remained predominantly populated by Native peoples speaking Native languages, then yeah I’d say it’s totally within their rights to expect visitors to either learn the local language and attempt to integrate, or be left out of certain parts of society such as restaurants that want to cater exclusively to people who speak Algonquin or whatever.

    Show up in Algiers and try saying “Sorry, I don’t speak Arabic. Do you have a French menu?”

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  • bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m not an expert on Japanese culture, but I don’t think they have the “melting pot” cultural identity that America has had historically.

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    • RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So it’s not xenophobia if you’ve been consistently xenophobic from the start.

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      • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Was it xenophobia for Algeria to reject French-speakers?

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• DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  .world btw

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  • 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s not their fault which Lemmy server they were born into

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  • chuckleslord@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah, team sports!

    /s

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