There is not a single evidence that muscle mass within natural limits becomes detrimental. Of course it’s kinda hard to test it out as well as we would need naturals, close to their maximum limit and hold that for decades, but no point to scare anyone that it’s a possibility naturally as most people will never even reach close to their maximum muscle building potential.
Even when going to steroid abuse territory, it’s questionable whatever steroids do more damage than just the muscle mass itself.
Carnelian@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Correct. Bodybuilding is a presentation sport with a variety of rulesets and judging criteria. Resistance training is a form of exercise with many proven physical and mental benefits
Usain Bolt was phenomenally muscular when he was competing, as are most sprinters. Many recognized Olympic sports reward larger physiques
You have my permission to skip direct bicep training.
Just make sure, assuming you want the full spectrum of proven benefits, that you hit your pulls (such as rows and pull ups, or appropriately scaled variations). This will heavily involve your biceps just so you know, but the main focus is the back.
Dangerous medical misinformation, you should delete this. Resistance training has proven cardiac benefits. There is zero risk of acquiring “too much” muscle mass
REDACTED@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
This is dangerous medical misinformation. Reduced mobility, joint stress, cardiovascular strain, heat intolerance (quite important lately), compartment syndrome, rhabdomyolysis risk, etc. You can most absolutely ruin your health by having too much muscle mass. Last I checked, in statistics bodybuilders have quite terrible longevity as opposed to resistance training folks (which basically shoots in the opposite direction of longevity).
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40393525/
Carnelian@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Perhaps once you understand why you are wrong, and you realize how much your error has the potential to harm people, you will apologize.
This study is definitionally unrelated to any form of resistance training, or the additional total body mass that you can acquire via resistance training.
It is an observational study on the outcomes of IFBB contestants. For anyone who doesn’t know, the IFBB is the primary bodybuilding federation for drug abusers. They run the “Mr. Olympia” contest which you may have heard of.
The drug abuse they glorify directly results in many extreme health issues including sudden cardiac death, in exchange for levels of muscle gain that far exceed what is possible for any natural athlete.
I want to be clear. What they are doing is extreme, illegal, dangerous, and critically, not related to resistance training in any meaningful way. The body will not allow you to become so muscular that it harms you, which is why these extreme athletes need illegal drugs to become so large in the first place.
It is shockingly irresponsible and ethically wrong for you to withhold this necessary context, and to so severely contort this paper into your unrelated false conclusion
REDACTED@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
Why would me pointing to a study that shows worse health for just body building (as opposed to resistance training) show data about resistance training? The study is about pure body building that focuses on muscles like biceps, just like the meme above, the thread I’m commenting on.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Don’t bodybuilders typically shoot for dangerously low body fat %? Like, all these symptoms sound like what you’d expect from someone on steroids who’s only not extremely underweight because they have a lot of muscle.
REDACTED@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
Yes. That’s been essentially my point. Don’t do that.
WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
There is no way those guys walking around at 6’1 300 lbs and sub 20% body fat are not taxing their hearts more than a similar height person of normal weight/bf%.
Carnelian@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It should go without saying that illegal drug abuse causes countless extreme health issues
You may be surprised to learn that non-drug abusing bodybuilders usually max out around the 150-170lb mark on stage. There are very hard limits to how much muscle your body will let you build
REDACTED@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
That’s really weird because most bodybuilders I know don’t really go below 75-80kg. Yes, I know many as I used to go to the gym, studied as mechanic and I’m from a small city that’s focused on gyms and outdoor fitness areas.
Miaou@jlai.lu 3 weeks ago
Are you implying sub 20% body fat is low?
Jesus_666@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It kinda is if you’re a woman. Of course there’s not very much overlap between women and 6’1" 300 lb guys.
But yeah, the problem there is the abuse of steroids and growth hormones. That will fuck your body up in various ways you might not even notice at first.
WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m stating that being grossly overweight with a normal to low bf% is still bad for one’s heart. ~20% is the high end of lean for adult men and the prefix “sub” means under or lower.