I’m no scientist but I imagine if you want to cite someone, you need to access their research legally
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HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
My mate Anna has a great archive of papers. Look her up some time!
BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca 3 weeks ago
Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I’m so glad we have the ability to hold back science through bureaucracy.
morto@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
No one checks for that, and if they did, they’re the ones with the burden of proof
Zorcron@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I’m not sure how anyone would ever know
testaccount372920@piefed.zip 3 weeks ago
Not really, you need to know (enough of) the content of what you’re citing to make sure that the citation makes sense. The actual info you need to write down for the citation is easily available. How you accessed it is irrelevant.
HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Ooh, this is actually a more controversial take among academics than you can imagine!
Around week 3 of my course I ask the question “what percentage cut do academics get for published articles”. They are always appalled to learn it is 0% (we get nothing, we are literally paid in exposure).
Below are some other issues with the journal industry as a whole:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serials_crisis?wprov=sfla1
en.wikipedia.org/…/Academic_journal_publishing_re…
Rugnjr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
For those who aren’t scientists, no. You don’t need legal access. You don’t necessarily need access at all (though imo it’s negligent to cite without having read the paper)
taiyang@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’ve cited enough off just expanded abstracts to say, how would they even know? It’s probably better than what I did, lol.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
> says something really dumb and bad
> angry edit that people call out their smelly mouth filled with corn
It’s everyone’s fault but your own.
ranzispa@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
Happens often to me. I know nobody in research who would care about it. Most people will likely congratulate you for not paying for access. Nobody likes the way journals do business.
Fuck you Elsevier.
MrShankles@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I read the source of my citations, but nowhere am I required to cite the citations of my source. If you don’t wanna “try” to access my resources… well, that sounds like a “you thing”. Good luck, cause my paper remains
fatcat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
20 down
Have another one! Knowledge (and doing research) should be free and not only for people who can pay for it. Look up how ridiculously expensive and complicated it is to access those publications.
nlghtcrawIer@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You clearly are not :)
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
well fuck. there go those whitepapers i wrote about, i really don’t remember, and cited articles i’d copied off the whatsit database years before before i’d lost access through the university
morto@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
are the papers from annas archive redundant with scihub, or are they from a different source?
pmk@piefed.ca 3 weeks ago
Scihub is one of Annas sources iirc.
ranzispa@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
Papers in Anna’s archive are mostly from sci-hub. There’s something not available on sci-hub, but not much.
Real problem is that sci-hub was the organization doing the archival on large scale and it is now dead.
morto@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Not exactly dead, but on a stale due to a legal dispute. However, they have started a new project that fits a legal grey-area called sci-net where people can ask for or help others get access to papers by getting them from their institutional login and sharing on the platform. Not as practical as sci-hub, but better than nothing and less prone to be taken down
ranzispa@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
I have seen that, but did not understand how to sign up.