FYI, I recognise America and am also horrified, if that helps.
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Dookieman12@piefed.social 1 day agoBen Franklin owned seven slaves early in his life, but later got rid of them, became an outspoken critic of slavery, and worked toward its abolition.
Also, slavery or not, the point still stands. They wouldn’t recognize America today and would be horrified.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 1 day ago
Of what?
There was a transgender Royal Governor of New York State.
Edward Hyde, served 1702 to 1708.
You’d know that if you actually studied US history.
deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
“Bonomi concluded that Lord Cornbury’s crossdressing was likely invented by his political enemies as character assassination.”
snooggums@piefed.world 1 day ago
“They were roommates!”
deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Sometimes it’s a “Sappho and her friend” situation, but it sounds like this guy was just a straight crook.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 22 hours ago
And…?
My point was that the Founders would have been familiar with the idea of transgender. Also, most of them had studied the Classics, and would have known about Sappho and the initiation rituals of the Spartan warriors.
Homosexualism* wasn’t invented in the 20th Century.
*I can’t find the video, but I once heard William F. Buckley use that word and it’s lived in my head ever since.
deegeese@sopuli.xyz 18 hours ago
… and your statement is totally false.
papalonian@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You immediately assumed they held a position opposite of yours for no reason and then speak condescendingly to them, why? Maybe they think the founding fathers would be horrified by the same things you are horrified by.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 22 hours ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_Cawthorn
Funny thing. I happen to own an electronic device that allows me to search a thing called ‘the world wide webbing.’
Using my advanced OKJeeves search engine, I learned something about Ms. Crawford.
One thing I learned about Ms. Crawford is that they don’t think we should respect other people’s preferred personal pronouns, so to honor that I’ll refer to them as ‘Ms.’
papalonian@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
More condescending commentary… ok?
Who is this person, and why do I care about them? And if they’re so important, and you’re so clever, why can’t you keep their name consistent in your own comment?
OwOarchist@pawb.social 1 day ago
Of what?
There was a transgender Royal Governor of New York State.
This may come as a shock to you, but the existence of trans people is not the only significant change that has happened here since the 1700s.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Tradition is just peer pressure from dead people.
If nothing would shock your ancestors, you have stagnated.