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• Dookieman12@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Ben Franklin owned seven slaves early in his life, but later got rid of them, became an outspoken critic of slavery, and worked toward its abolition.

  Also, slavery or not, the point still stands. They wouldn’t recognize America today and would be horrified.

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  • deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tradition is just peer pressure from dead people.

    If nothing would shock your ancestors, you have stagnated.

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  • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    FYI, I recognise America and am also horrified, if that helps.

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  • DagwoodIII@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Of what?

    There was a transgender Royal Governor of New York State.

    Edward Hyde, served 1702 to 1708.

    You’d know that if you actually studied US history.

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    • papalonian@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You immediately assumed they held a position opposite of yours for no reason and then speak condescendingly to them, why? Maybe they think the founding fathers would be horrified by the same things you are horrified by.

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      • DagwoodIII@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_Cawthorn

        Funny thing. I happen to own an electronic device that allows me to search a thing called ‘the world wide webbing.’

        Using my advanced OKJeeves search engine, I learned something about Ms. Crawford.

        One thing I learned about Ms. Crawford is that they don’t think we should respect other people’s preferred personal pronouns, so to honor that I’ll refer to them as ‘Ms.’

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    • deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “Bonomi concluded that Lord Cornbury’s crossdressing was likely invented by his political enemies as character assassination.”

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      • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        “They were roommates!”

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      • DagwoodIII@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        And…?

        My point was that the Founders would have been familiar with the idea of transgender. Also, most of them had studied the Classics, and would have known about Sappho and the initiation rituals of the Spartan warriors.

        Homosexualism* wasn’t invented in the 20th Century.

        *I can’t find the video, but I once heard William F. Buckley use that word and it’s lived in my head ever since.

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    • OwOarchist@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Of what?

      There was a transgender Royal Governor of New York State.

      This may come as a shock to you, but the existence of trans people is not the only significant change that has happened here since the 1700s.

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      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        the existence of trans people is not the only significant change that has happened here since the 1700s.

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• chewypoops@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Even then, those slavers would still hate the MAGA movement.

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  • Leviathan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Simply based on the fact that most of them consider themselves christian yet have never actually read the bible.

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