Comment on French retailer mocks €1039 Steam Machine with “Stim Machine” RX 9060 XT PC for €999

87Six@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  You could save 35$ tho /s

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• Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Yeah, but this way you also have the inconvenience of having to build it and install the OS yourself.

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  • Dremor@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You can buy it prebuilt.

    Still have to install SteamOS, but that a painless process, I’ve done it multiple timed. You boot the iso, double clic on an icon, accept the prompt that tells you everything on the disk will be erased, and boom, you got the OS installed.

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    • Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The average user doesn’t want to install an OS though, that’s the whole point of selling it as a complete, pre built package.
      Sure, this is a little more powerful than the steam machine, but it lacks all of the actual selling points of the steam machine.

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      • rafoix@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        What is the selling point of a steam machine.

        “Do you want to overpay for obsolete hardware that can barely run most modern games? Are you really stupid and cannot use a USB drive to make a very simple software installation that already has tons of step by step instructions freely available online?”

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  • Hawke@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Also good luck with firmware updates, since most of them are extremely inconvenient to install with Linux, and also few vendors actually update their firmware any more than they need to.

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• CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Welcome to the world of pre-built PCs! Like, technically you can upgrade your GPU but you‘d have to upgrade most of your machine too to actually get a performance boost.

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• grinning_serpent@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  8GB is plenty for 1080p. Especially since you’re not actually rendering at 1080p. And it’s RDNA4 vs 3, so it’s a more powerful chip in general.

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  • 87Six@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    350 isn’t nearly enough.

    Yea you get a single spike in power draw and that PC crashes. No way that shitty PSU can handle peak power draw if both CPU and GPU kick in at once

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    • baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      another thing is that PSUs slowly lose capacity over time. eventually the system might turn really unstable and eventually unusable.

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    • grinning_serpent@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      At ~310 estimated usage you’d probably want at least a 450 to be safe I think.

      With only 350 you’d probably need to undervolt or set power limits, which beyond obviously limiting performance (but at least something the Steam Machine suffers from too) isn’t exactly “it just works.”

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• Dremor@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The SM could end up having hardware as shitty as this one, you never know. Especially since they’ve shown with the first deck iteration they could release hardware that can cook itself.

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  • rtxn@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Have you seen the GN teardown? Every bit of volume that isn’t already occupied by something is dedicated to cooling. The heat sink runs essentially edge to edge, so no issues with airflow either.

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    • 87Six@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      This Dremor guy just hates everything that isn’t a PC.

      It’s baffling to me how he’s commenting about it without knowing a sliver about the purpose of the product, or how it’s built.

      And I’m a PC guy too. I’d never buy a steam machine, but compared to our usual consoles, the SM is a breath of consumer-friendly fresh air.

      Also, releasing SteamOS is a fucking goated move by Valve. One that Sony or Microsoft would have never made with their consoles.

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    • Dremor@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Not yet, but I’ll look at it tonight.

      The Steam Machine is probably better integrated, andthus smaller, thank to it being custom made, I just posted this one because I found it interesting to see third parties trying to do their own.

      Personally I think I’ll go with the Steam Machine, but I’d have liked for it to be available as a barebone version without memery and ssd, as I already have some compatible one laying around in my component stash.

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    • grinning_serpent@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yeah, Valve gets high marks for engineering for sure.

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