Clearly you have never met stupid people. Lucky you.
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PotatoPie@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Both sides are just people with interests, i never understood the smart/dumb distinctions, there’s just interests, dedication and morals
DrBob@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Lots of upvotes, but that’s simply not true. It is true that people can be gifted in one area and not in others, but those people can excel in those areas more than someone even more passionately interested could ever hope to.
I knew a guy named Joe Rohde. You can look him up, he ended up being a head of imagineering at Disney. When I knew him, he was a high school art teacher, and then just starting at Disney. His aptitude for art was off the charts, and his mom said that was true when he was four and able to draw 3D renderings when his peers couldn’t do stick figures. Sure, he practiced and developed skills, but his ability to hold a 3D image in his mind, tweak and rotate it, and then put it on paper, is something innate. He was absolute crap at math.
I spent 40 years at a company that mostly made rocket engines for NASA and the DoD, working with literal rocket scientists. I met all sorts of very smart people. Some were the stereotypical scientist that were geniuses in a particular area but had no skills outside of it, but others were just simply brilliant at anything they turned their mind to. Many of them defied the stereotype and also has great social skills.
It might be nice to think that anyone can be truly great at anything they put their mind to, but I’ve seen too many people who are truly great at things to believe it. Some people are just wired differently.
Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
his ability to hold a 3D image in his mind, tweak and rotate it, and then put it on paper, is something innate.
This is coincidentally a symptom of dyslexia, so you are right to think of it as something innate, unfortunately. It’s also why so many architects are dyslexic.
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
He was trying to explain how it is one time, and he showed me by drawing a picture of a galloping horse, but he didn’t sketch it out and then fill in the detail. He started at the nose and did it in full detail, left to right, like he was uncovering the drawing by lifting a sheet. It was really amazing.
PotatoPie@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
True, and it actually makes up the majority of the skill as well, i just don’t like to look at people as gifted or lucky because it’s unfair, it’s kind of sad hahaha
I get easily conquered by defeatism if it’s done through pure logic and there’s no doubt about luck being a huge factor in skill! And in life in general, So i just kind of look away and continue grinding what i enjoy, because it’s the only thing you can do to enjoy competitive activities
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Even more so, luck is a big component of success. You can have both skill and hard work and not be successful at something. Likewise, some of the people who are successful aren’t the most skilled, talented, or hardest working. There are correlations between success and those things, but luck is certainly a factor.
usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
You’ve never met someone who’s just plain dumb? I have bad news.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Nah, that would be great news. Being dumber than anyone you’ve ever met makes you less responsible for things like climate change and political violence than the people around you (morally, at least; you’re probably literally more of a cause, because you’re more likely to be right wing, but if you’ve already jumped that hurdle, maybe you aren’t). Plus, if your own life is a wreck, it feels better to blame an inherent limitation than something you could change, if only you had the discipline. If your own life is great, you’ve overcome a serious obstacle and should be proud of yourself.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 month ago
If anyone disagrees, I’d love to hear your reasoning, because this is now stuck in my brain.
I don’t want to become stupider, but if I had the choice between finding out today that my IQ is and always has been 70 and that it is and always has been 170, I’d be much less disappointed in myself with the former. Obviously, if I could then learn how to harness it, that would be different, but it’s not like I haven’t been trying my whole life to do well and use my talents.
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 1 month ago
finally someone gets it
its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Right but only one side is compensating.
stephen01king@piefed.zip 1 month ago
I think you’re lucky if you’ve never had an interest you weren’t smart enough to enjoy properly.
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 1 month ago
Yeah but some are able to get better at them than others. Talent does play a role and it’s best if interests align.
fartographer@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Don’t forget opportunity
Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 1 month ago
It’s someone who sucked at school clinging to their sense of intellectual superiority in spite of that.
PotatoPie@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Not really, i’ve know many people like this who were bottom of their class and had edge over me in chess, fun games like it or random specific trivia, they don’t do it to feel intellectually superior they do it because it’s more enjoyable to them than studying
They’re not dumb they’re just not trying altogether, and when i talk with them about the topics they enjoy they actually show great understanding on them, it’s all just people with interests
If they were trying, say in a debate and they’re deliberately refusing to follow simple proofs they themselves use, yeah then they’re dumb, but i’ve never come across someone like that that still managed to be good at something, it’s a core part of learning as a process
Sure there are people with useful interests and ones with useless ones, but i refuse to call the useful ones smart and useless ones dumb, it’s demeaning to those people’s capabilities, i don’t hold anyone to this way of thinking it’s just mine
lath@piefed.social 1 month ago
I was once interested in time travel. My dedication was boundless and my morals were questionable. I only got smart enough to know I’m too dumb to make it work.
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Zwiebel@feddit.org 1 month ago
Pff amateur, I can even travel forward in time by slightly less than a second every second!
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CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 1 month ago
pff that’s nothing, the faster I go times stays the same for me, but goes faster for everyone else!
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
We’ve, uh, figured out how to travel through time, at the speed of regular time, with…plastic bags.