I do not. This rethoric makes it sound like gamers share the fault for the industry being shit, and the fault lies solely with the publishers and sometimes devs. I do agree with “no crunch and decent wages” bit - if it takes a decade to make it and costs a lot fine, so be it, take your time, but I want and I like options: shorter games, longer games, pretty ones, 8-bit one, realistic graphics, story or not is of no concern, I want them all. What I don’t want is this late stage capitalism infinite growth bullshit which stifles studios from innovating, keeps franchises going forever on mediocre entries and closes studios for short term gains.
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missingno@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
I want shorter games with worse graphics made by people who are paid more to work less and I'm not kidding.
absquatulate@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
grinning_serpent@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s weird to think this isn’t the majority opinion. If I had to make a “best games of this decade” list, I think maybe Shadowbringers would be the only AAA project on that list.
Games made by small teams with small budgets, like Shovel Knight or Blasphemous or Stardew, are what’d be crowding the top.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I want games with 6th and 7th gen graphics. That was the last time most games were creative and not corporate slop.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Xbox 360/PS3 had enough graphical power. We never needed more.
Obviously better is better and more is more, but I dont want that increase at the expense of anything. If the tech happens to be good enough that we can just magically have better graphics and its all fine then great, but i dont want to wait many years, or have massive teams of miserable code-monkeys chained to a production line, or have less overall games desperate to make a safe return so they dont dare try anything new or original.
kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
We never needed more.
I might be wrong, but I think that’s too early for me - I’d like 120fps at 1440p in a game like Portal 2 as a regular mid-to-high end experience, and I’d like to have room for funky stuff (portals will already have some funky cost).
The issue to me is that it’s a nonsensical competition for better graphics, without considering the actual experience, and instead of solving the root causes people are treating performance as the issue to attack by reducing fidelity, framerate and resolution, and filling in the gaps.
It’s funny, thinking about it. Back when hardware was weak game developers figured out they can keep textures at low resolution and layer them with differently scaled textures, or straight up noise, to make them look more detailed up close. Now we’re basically doing the equivalent of that on the whole screen, cutting down on the image and filling in the gaps, and it’s become a competition of who can do it better.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
A game like Halo 3 still looks great today besides some of the human faces.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
What does 6th and 7th gen mean?
I want games with 90s to mid 2000s graphics. FMV was the height of graphics hahaha
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
6th gen = Dreamcast, PS2, Gamecube, Xbox
7th gen = Xbox 360, PS3; optionally Wii, but this is the spot where Nintendo systems sort of stop aligning with other console generations
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Thank you! Xbox and PS3 games hold up, sometimes… sometimes not, for me. Most GC/DC/PS2 games hold up great for me. Most stuff before that looks excellent still (sometimes requiring a CRT.)
tomi000@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You have that option. Theres literally thousands of such games, unlike 20 years ago. But this opinion doesnt seem to be the norm, otherwise AAA wouldnt still be a thing.
thesohoriots@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If it’s longer, prettier, and less fun than the original Max Payne I’m not interested.
thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
How would you rank Max Payne 2 in that comparison? It was more fun (subjective), prettier (objective), but shorter (from memory).
BladeFederation@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
The fun is the important part, so it is better.
LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
Is there a “definitive” version of Max Payne or are they all roughly the same?