There is some strategy you’re not thinking of. Too much to go into in one comment. I just played a full 6 hour game with a 9 year old and a 6 year old with ADHD, and they didn’t wonder off once. The game has its charms.
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Rusty@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
Does anyone actually like Monopoly? It is the worst board game in existence.
To me, it’s not even a game, because players don’t make any decisions. You roll a die and go a number of steps, no player agency so far. After that you technically have a decision to buy or not to buy the property. But it is not really a decision, you need to buy it, if you can afford it.
I believe the main reason people say that they don’t like board games is because the only board game they played is Monopoly.
starik@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
Lucky_777@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Its an RNG fest.
My wife had dominated rolls. Buying multiple properties. Other players got some, but more of our rolls were railroads, and chance spots. Everyone was bleeding dry. So I finally got the peasants to unite. We had 3 other players basically form a company and rallied to take down the empire. By that time though, it was too late.
If she had one or two rolls into our meager hotels, maybe things could have turned but never happened. We hit one or two of her properties and that was the final nail. We couldn’t recover.
The game is pure RNG and don’t let anyone tell you it isnt. You can maybe talk and deal your way to victory if someone doesn’t understand the game, but if everyone is seasoned. It’s who lands on the most properties to chain.
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Yeah almost pure RNG as you said. Last time I played with 3 others I played as cut throat and by the rules as possible any I still lost because literally nobody ever landed on my maxee out mid tier properties. Like in 10 or so rounds (full board rotations) after maxing it out nobody of the other 3 landed on any of those properties once. And then I went bankrupt by landing on the most expensive tile 3 rounds in a row.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
I remember my friend told me the rule of purchasing property is that once you landed in a property no one owned, you either buy it or be auction off to other player, and then the game end when every property are being purchased, so each player objective is basically get as much property as possible, negotiating with other players for their property so you can own a row of land for upgrading. The game become a slog when people just don’t get property, don’t negotiate, and playing it safe.
It’s like when playing DOTA and two team decided to just farm critter for gold instead of attempting to reach the objective respectively. It’s called Monopoly, not Money Hoardy
Jarix@lemmy.world 1 week ago
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 1 week ago
The reason people hate it is because they don’t follow the rules.
They put tax money in the center and pretend “free parking” means “payday”.
They prevent purchases until a lap or two around the board.
They allow landed-on properties to go unpurchased.
They allow no-rent agreements between players.
And then they have the audacity to bitch that the game takes too fucking long.
hansolo@lemmy.today 1 week ago
100% agree. My family always played strict rules, and the game was always a painful slog. Constant mortgaging properties to afford rent somewhere else, a while game hanging on $11 here and there. The game I played in a mobile home during power outages was about living paycheck to paycheck.
The first time I saw people do the free parking tax money thing, I thought they were joking. The fuck kind of soft baby game is this? Two times around the board first? Why? Just give $600 more to start, idiots. Why not let the car roll 3 dice or some shit because a car goes faster than an iron?
Bongles@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
I’ve heard one time around the board, but not two. The idea though was so the first player to go doesn’t have an advantage (which is kind of irrelevant after the first couple rolls unless they keep rolling high, but it FEELS like it matters I’m sure).
thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I… the player that goes first has the EXACT SAME statistical advantage, regardless how many round trips you do before allowing purchases. No matter how many times you roll the dice, each player will, on average, be ≈7 places in front of the person that rolls after them (not exactly 7, because there are rules for rolling again on matching dice etc.). This is true for the first roll of the dice, and it is true for the millionth roll. The distance between two consecutive players is on average equal to the mean number of places you move on a turn.
hansolo@lemmy.today 1 week ago
Life ain’t fair. Neither is Monopoly. That’s the point!
kossa@feddit.org 1 week ago
Which is basically just a die cast, but extended for no reason 😅
Naz@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
One of the canon rules is you can’t skip a property sale.
If a player lands on a property, they earn the right to buy it at cost, or start an auction.
If they don’t have the money to buy it, they can only auction.
Other players can buy the property you landed on
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
They prevent purchase for 1 lap just so it will truly randomise who get to make the purchase first, instead of just giving it to the people who goes first.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
You can do the same thing by just rolling to see who goes first…
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
Technically you do that as well, but the no-purchase first round make sure it is as random as possible because you roll multiples time and the dice change hand. Kinda like a warm up round as you’re now racing to get to the end of first round and get to draw chance and chest.
You can also don’t do that, it’s up to you.