Can confirm, German churches are cool Nevertheless the meme is funny
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Saapas@piefed.zip 3 weeks ago
But protestant countries are full of awesome churches?
grranibal@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Almost all of which were built before the reformation.
Ulm Minster, Cologne Cathedral, Speyerer Dom, the Berlin Cathedral, all originally Catholic.
England is a better example since their brand of Protestantism really favored big works to rival the Catholics.
zaphod@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Cologne Cathedral, Speyerer Dom
Bad examples, those two are they’re still catholic.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ok good to know I’m not crazy in remembering Bavaria remained catholic
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Right, but they are churches in Germany.
smoothoperator@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Those aren’t really Protestant churches, are they? Aren’t they Anglican Church or something?
Rothe@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
The Anglican church is technically also a Protestant church.
grranibal@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
TIL! Thank you, I thought the Protestant split happened way earlier
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Weren’t most of them Catholic when they were built?
Saapas@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
That’s true for most of Europe, since protestant split happened so late
Norin@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The words they’re looking for is “evangelical” or “nondenominational.”
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Aren’t most of those former Catholic Churches?
Saapas@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
former
Indeed
BarrelAgedBoredom@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
The post is referring to american protestant, as opposed to capital P Protestant churches. They’re usually in smaller buildings that aren’t full-time churches/ the space is often used for non-sermon church functions. For example, my childhood church was based out of a community center room that held ~40 people and hadnt been updated since the 80s
marcos@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
One of the items Luther was protesting about was that churches were too expensive and ostentatious. So, no, unless you know if some protestants that aren’t actually in the protest.
BarrelAgedBoredom@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Plenty of protestant denominations have lost the plot on the whole “protesting” bit. Joel osteen and Kenneth Copeland’s churches are considered to be in the protestant vein of christianity and their whole thing is flaunting wealth and having big, expensive churches. Whether they should be considered protestant is for the various flavors of protestant to decide. As far as I’m aware, there’s no broad consensus that defines protestantism besides “likes martin luther”, and “not catholic/orthodox”
makyo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I could be wrong but aren’t those considered Non-denominational these days
ACindyDerg@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
They just aren’t christians. Literally the thing that Jesus died for was him driving out the people buying and selling shit in the temple. They use his name and likeness to sell shit when he literally had a sermon saying that every single rich person deserved to burn in hell (a camel going through the eye of a needle is impossible, and yet easier than it is for a rich man to enter heaven). And they especially cannot claim to be part of anything Martin Luther did. They treat his list of complaints more like a god damned to-do list than anything.
Rothe@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
They are all capital P Protestant denominations.
yeather@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Capital P in this instance is I believe referring to the 7 historical american Protestant denominations. The folding chair and strip mall variety are usually offshoots of the historical denomination.
BarrelAgedBoredom@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
You’re right, I was just using that to highlight the differences between American and European protestant churches. Most american churches have ~75 congregants and are fairly small operations run out of buildings that weren’t built with the intention to be a church. As such, they usually lack the aesthetics associated with churches.
And to be fair, I’ve never been to a European protestant (of any variety) church, there’s a cultural image in america of what the average European church looks like, and it’s usually an older brick/stone building with high ceilings and round/arched windows, built with the intention of being a church. Many suburban american churches (this is where the folding chair trope comes from) looks more like this:
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And this is a really nice example too, I had trouble finding one that reflected the true reality of many of these smaller churches.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
The Lutheran Church my kids cub scout pack meets in is really built more like a school or community center than a church. It’s got the school hallway vibe in the Sunday School area (just with small classrooms appropriate for up to about 8 students each) and the gym/stage area has strong community center vibes