Comment on I am an American. I used to be proud of my country. Now it feels like a turd circling the drain. Is there anything going on behind the scene that America is actually doing good in?

Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Patnou@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  yea that was really good news. I ment so a small part of me can be proud again to be American?

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  • BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Despite having done things that seem dated in other countries, you guys did plenty of good

    Just look at all the technological innovation coming from your country that saved a ton of lives (yes you have a spud healthcare system, but these innovations will help humanity for the rest of its existence, they cannot be taken away)

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    • Pricklesthemagicfish@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah like tomahawk rockets

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      • OrteilGenou@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Don’t forget the Big Gulp

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      • zbyte64@awful.systems ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        And RoundUp!

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  • sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    Yes, yes we are. We have been for pretty much forever. We fucking suck.

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    • aesthelete@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      We’re finally learning that it indeed sucks to suck

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  • theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No reason ever to be.

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    • TractorDuffy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You don’t think there are any good reasons to be proud of being an American? Why not?

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      • atomicorange@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Usually it’s considered pretty stupid to be proud of things you didn’t have a hand in. Why be proud of where you were born, when it was just random chance? I can see being happy or feeling privileged to be an American - that at least suggests what you’re appreciating is that it benefits you. Saying you’re proud implies that being from the USA is some sort of moral success and it’s just not.

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  • bus_factor@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you’re a birthright citizen, why would you be proud over something you did nothing to achieve? It’s also not your fault, so there’s nothing to be ashamed of either.

    It shakes out a little differently if you’re naturalized, but only marginally. That naturalization test isn’t much of a barrier.

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  • FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why would you be proud to be American?

    It was founded on cruelty, and never improved.

    The civilised world has always sneered at the US, and for good reason

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  • scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I would suggest you focus on outgrowing the need to be proud of your nationality. It’s not necessary to be able to wave a flag happily to live a good life, do good things with your time, and appreciate others who are doing the same.

    The second you try to take this to the level of the entire country, and specifically the nation-state itself… now you’re into a whole mess. The US has a lengthy history of atrocities, toppling democracies, massacring innocents, dominating weaker groups… just don’t go there.

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  • djmikeale@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A trick is to acknowledge that there’s many alternatives. You can choose to be proud of your state, county, or simply just say “yeah my country is a cunt, so what?” And realize pride of your country doesn’t impact whether or not you’ve been a good, nice, or kind person.

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  • OrteilGenou@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well, you freed the slaves that you had enslaved. I mean, their descendants anyway.

    I guess the answer is yes. Some small part of you can be proud to be American again. All you have to do is not think about it too hard, and you could try yelling “Silver Bullet” and shotgunning a Coors Light every now and then. That could maybe act as a stand-in for pride, anyway. C’mon buddy, it’s not that bad…

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    • ohulancutash@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The US is the only western country where slavery is still legally practiced.

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  • speckofrust@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Pride should be reserved for accomplishments, not for merely being born within some lines on a map. That being said, some immigration stories could be classed as accomplishments, so perhaps there’s pride to be found there.

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• RustyShackleford@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Pretty much this, my friends and family thought I was being negative. But now, a few either, don’t like admitting it or they act like I’m a wizard.

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  • WYLD_STALLYNS@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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• TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Any nation that still ends official messages with “god bless America” and whose primary power projection has been weapons for centuries, is still a shithole. You’re not saying “allahu ackbar” because your religious extremists use a slightly different book.

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