I don’t like AI but christ Lemmy is getting annoying lately with kneejerk “slop” claims for anything with the letters AI in it. A lot of this stuff has been used for ages and yeah, they’re leaning into the current hype but the over reaction is just ridiculous (see: the “open slop” list of open source projects that includes those that have the audacity to allow developers the ability to use AI line completion)
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zaphod@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks agoDLSS is short for Deep Learning Super Sampling, it does the upscaling using deep learning, what people also call AI. The upscaler has to be trained on images. Depending on how you train it you either get something that looks almost exactly the same as the game at a higher resolution or you get AI slop.
NotSteve_@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
deep learning isn’t really the same thing as a large language model. People call LLMs AI.
plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Llms aren’t the only type of ai….
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
AI isn’t real, I’m just saying what people call AI is pretty much LLMs. No one looks at DLSS and says ‘thats ai’
Nikelui@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“Science fiction AI” isn’t real. AI is most definitely a thing. From the Oxford dictionary
artificial intelligence = the study and development of computer systems that can copy intelligent human behaviour
By definition, a chess program is AI.
CheesyFingers@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
LLMs were (and are) marketed as “AI”.
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I agree. DLSS isn’t, though. It’s not AI though. Deep learning is like a close cousin
b34k@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
DLSS actually uses Machine Learning models to do the upscaling, so in fact there is no AI Slop here.
popcar2@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
I’m aware of how it works, but the results aren’t bad. Worst case scenario is you get some ghosting with DLSS, but it’s far from what I’d call AI slop.
plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
But it literally follows the same process. Why is one slop, but not the other? You’re being hypocrital.
popcar2@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
One is upscaling the image while preserving it as much as possible, the other is applying a filter to try and “enhance” it. What’s hard to get?
Ledivin@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How is “upscaling while preserving it” not literally the exact same philosophy as “enhance by applying a filter?” You just don’t like the specific filter, it’s very literally the same process.
half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Not all answers are easy. This new dlss looks like it was trained on stolen work. Old dlss had a neutral network that was tuned before the plagiarism machine became popular.
Klear@quokk.au 2 weeks ago
Piracy is not stealing.
Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Are you really asking why compressing and uncompressing art made by a human being is different from slop produced by the slop machine?
One exists to reconstruct an image as closely to the original as possible while saving space, the other is meant to insert arbitrary changes to the initial image and produce something else.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
Oh yeah? Well vegatables are both in pig troughs and on dinner plates. Why’s one slop and not the other? They were grown with the same process!
Because one is shitty and the other isn’t.
plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
If the vegetables are the same, they aren’t slop. Pigs aren’t fed vegetables, they use rotten vegetables. Your analogy doesn’t work, if you actually comprehend the basics of it….
If the vegetables were rotten, yeah most people would eat the “slop” since it’s just vegetables, you would let good food go to waste just because the “name” you’re arbitrarily and incorrectly using for all pig feed?