Comment on Nvidia Announces DLSS 5, and it adds... An AI slop filter over your game

• zaphod@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  DLSS is short for Deep Learning Super Sampling, it does the upscaling using deep learning, what people also call AI. The upscaler has to be trained on images. Depending on how you train it you either get something that looks almost exactly the same as the game at a higher resolution or you get AI slop.

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  • popcar2@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m aware of how it works, but the results aren’t bad. Worst case scenario is you get some ghosting with DLSS, but it’s far from what I’d call AI slop.

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    • plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But it literally follows the same process. Why is one slop, but not the other? You’re being hypocrital.

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      • popcar2@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        One is upscaling the image while preserving it as much as possible, the other is applying a filter to try and “enhance” it. What’s hard to get?

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      • half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Not all answers are easy. This new dlss looks like it was trained on stolen work. Old dlss had a neutral network that was tuned before the plagiarism machine became popular.

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      • Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Are you really asking why compressing and uncompressing art made by a human being is different from slop produced by the slop machine?

        One exists to reconstruct an image as closely to the original as possible while saving space, the other is meant to insert arbitrary changes to the initial image and produce something else.

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      • bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Oh yeah? Well vegatables are both in pig troughs and on dinner plates. Why’s one slop and not the other? They were grown with the same process!

        Because one is shitty and the other isn’t.

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  • NotSteve_@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t like AI but christ Lemmy is getting annoying lately with kneejerk “slop” claims for anything with the letters AI in it. A lot of this stuff has been used for ages and yeah, they’re leaning into the current hype but the over reaction is just ridiculous (see: the “open slop” list of open source projects that includes those that have the audacity to allow developers the ability to use AI line completion)

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  • dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    deep learning isn’t really the same thing as a large language model. People call LLMs AI.

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    • plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Llms aren’t the only type of ai….

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      • dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        AI isn’t real, I’m just saying what people call AI is pretty much LLMs. No one looks at DLSS and says ‘thats ai’

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    • CheesyFingers@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      LLMs were (and are) marketed as “AI”.

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      • dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I agree. DLSS isn’t, though. It’s not AI though. Deep learning is like a close cousin

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  • b34k@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    DLSS actually uses Machine Learning models to do the upscaling, so in fact there is no AI Slop here.

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• givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Not really,

  Nvidia just calls everything DLSS…

  Like, it’s basically an anthology label at this point. If they think it’s a good idea, they call.it DLSS #

  For example DLSS 4 was frame generation, nothing to do with super sampling.

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  • zaphod@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You could call it temporal super sampling.

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• CileTheSane@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It does a pretty good job of making the game still look (almost) exactly the same

  Isn’t that just displaying the image with extra steps? Why is my PC using all this extra processing power in order to make it look (almost) exactly the same?

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