They need Lebensraum.
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FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 day ago
Israel is literally waging a war to expand borders, so yeah, maybe they want to be left alone in the sense that they won’t accept any state other than Israel existing in the end.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org 1 day ago
Why do they all sound like they’re from brooklyn?
Samskara@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
Because you are only watching one sided propaganda.
The majority of Jews in Israel are Mizrahi, meaning from the Middle East and Mediterranean region.
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 1 day ago
Or, they want to be left alone to do whatever they want for the glory of the motherland.
prettybunnys@piefed.social 1 day ago
It’s … wild because this is part of the roots of the Jewish people being chased from their lands.
In a world where folks accepted other peoples gods but revered their own … the monotheistic Abrahamic religions fucked all that up.
Greddan@feddit.org 1 day ago
A bunch of Europeans calling themselves Israelites has about as much weight as a bunch of Europeans calling themselves Aryans.
daannii@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Have you ever heard of this social experiment that was done a long time ago.
A teacher in 1968, following days after MLK was murdered, decided to teach kids about racism. It ended up becoming a famous experiment about how people who are discriminated against will often do the same back to others. And that we are all equally capable of being taught to discriminate even when we ourselves have faced discrimination and know what it’s like.
Here is the premise. (All kids were white, I believe)
The teacher told the students that Brown color students were smarter than blue eye eye students because the pigment in brown eyes was related to intelligence.
Here is the rest copied from Wikipedia
“Initially, there was resistance among the students in the minority group to the idea that blue-eyed children were better than brown-eyed children. To counter this, Elliott led the children to believe the false premise that melanin was linked to their higher intelligence and learning ability. Shortly thereafter, the initial resistance fell away. Those who were deemed “superior” became arrogant, bossy, and otherwise unpleasant to their “inferior” classmates. Their grades on simple tests improved, and they completed mathematical and reading tasks that had seemed outside their ability before. The “inferior” classmates also transformed – into timid and subservient children who scored more poorly on tests, and even during recess isolated themselves, including those who had previously been dominant in the class. These children’s academic performance suffered, even with tasks that had been simple before.[10]
The next Monday, Elliott reversed the exercise, making the brown-eyed children superior. While the brown-eyed children did taunt the blue-eyed children in ways similar to what had occurred the previous day, Elliott reports it was much less intense. To reflect on the experience, she asked the children to write down what they had learned.[6]”
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Elliott
Here is an in-depth article by PBS on it. www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/…/introduction-2/
Here is a documentary about it , also made by PBS. m.youtube.com/watch?v=1mcCLm_LwpE
It’s a fascinating experiment into human behavior and self reflection.
WillFord27@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
I was surprised to learn Jane Elliott is still alive. MLK’s assassination really wasn’t as long ago as they want you to believe.
daannii@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Black slavery really wasn’t that long ago either.
1863
163 years.
That’s roughly only 2 lifetimes ago.
Two.
But yeah segregation was 50 years. People are alive today that weren’t allowed to use the same toilets as whites or share drinking fountains. Restaurants wouldn’t serve them.
Sundown towns. Lynchings.
The latter is still occurring.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The problem with believing in gods is that you think you are right. That makes other people wrong. And so it begins…
ptu@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
That is one way to see it, but it’s also possible to have a more pluralistic view. Like in India which has a long tradition of many religions co-existing with respect.
DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 1 day ago
Boy, you should really look into how they’re handing their Muslim population. Though, yes, much like the Israel situation, the Brits really fucked that region up.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You can respect someone and still think they’re wrong. Just like I respect you right now.
But if you truly believe in your religion, then you must believe that other religions aren’t right.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 16 hours ago
That’s not true. I believe in gods and I’m n antirealist. I think everything is subjective and we should kill the idea of one objective reality.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
If you can believe that, then you can believe anything, and you’re one good conversation away from being manipulated and used.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Why would you believe anything if you were going to believe you were wrong?
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 day ago
And that’s why you shouldn’t.
lyralycan@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
You say that but there’s no real evidence of a mass migration, suggesting the chase never happened. But, considering the Israelites’ goal back then was to annihilate the natives of (what was until 1948) Palestine and take their land because someone said Yahweh said they should… If they were banished they probably had it coming. Just like modern day Israelites have it coming.
prettybunnys@piefed.social 1 day ago
K.
Id like anyone who read my comment to not see this comment and think it follows what I’m saying or expands on it.
This dude is standing alone
lyralycan@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
I stand proud, hating evil and cruelty. It has no place in the world I envision.
Pricklesthemagicfish@reddthat.com 1 day ago
So you dont think israel is wrong for stealing land and killing innocence woman and children?
qevlarr@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They can live there, just don’t genocide everyone else, is that so hard?
lyralycan@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
Well I’d agree but I have standards… If you catch your neighbour burning your shed down for the eighth time, eventually you’re going to decide they can’t be trusted in your garden. The Zionists have fucked with Palestinians for decades recently, and centuries past, and seem incapable of refraining from murder.