Huawei is a bad example of a good point. Huawei working on anything related to US infrastructure would be a disaster. Consumer goods maybe not so bad but that whole thing started because of B2B
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HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The average American truly doesn’t know just how much their entire market is already artificially forced to keep out better options simply because they aren’t American or aligned with American gov interests.
The result is we get objectively shittier stuff than the rest of the world. Huawei being banned in the US is a perfect example of this. The gov claims they ban this shit to stop Chinese infiltration, but the reality is its to eliminate competition for American and American aligned billionaires.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s bit of both. I still wouldn’t trust Chinese tech. Huawei tech is involved in surveiling the African Union headquarters.. This not to minimise US’ own corruption and digital imperialism, although I think the EU is in the right step to use open source software to replace American tech.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I would trust China before Elon fucking Musk.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Just because US is going on temper tantrum it doesn’t mean people have to forget that China is doing its own Orwellian surveillance.
artyom@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
It’s pretty bad everywhere but people don’t realize the level of surveillance in China is on a whole other fucking level.
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
An acceptable price for living under a government that actually controls its capitalist billionaires rather than being controlled by them.
And it’s not like China’s surveillance is any more Orwellian than the West’s. They just do it more openly.
AlexLost@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
All tech is used as such. You think Apple and Microsoft and Android aren’t selling your data to the government? Hmmm…
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s what I said basically. US is doing its own digital imperialism. The difference is that the US government outsourced the Orwellian surveillance to techbros.
AlexLost@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s just a difference in government philosophy though. China owns most endeavours in its country, the USA outsources it to private enterprise and buys it back.
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Amazon literally allows police and ICE access to your Ring camera and Alexa recordings at will. They don’t even have to make a request, Amazon built an app so they can have access to any of it immediately.
utopiah@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
All tech is used as such. You think Apple and Microsoft and Android aren’t …
At least “All popular consumer tech …” then, because there are alternatives already.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
It’s not just that they don’t know. They’re willfully ignorant. People have some kind of consumer brainrot. I was talking to someone last week about how it’d be better to keep their older perfectly functional tools because the newer ones have been getting enshittified for decades. His only answer was like “well I can just replace them in if they break” which didn’t even address what I was talking about really.
Croquette@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
“But it got electrolytes. That’s what plants crave”
plyth@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
It’s not just that they don’t know. They’re willfully ignorant. People have some kind of consumer brainrot.
The same media is sent to all people in the west. The US is just some years ahead.
Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I just learned headlight technology in new European cars is insane. Literally selectively blocks out light to incoming cars. So you can see the road at night and not blind people.
Damage@feddit.it 3 weeks ago
It’s not an European exclusive, I once rented a Mazda CX30 that did that
hovercat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
It’s not something that’s been allowed in the US until very recently. Auto on/off high beams have been a thing for decades, but the selective dimming/“tunneling” only just recently became legal within the past couple of years in the US.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
My 2015MY has that as an option. It’s slick. I didn’t know it was available when I bought used but it’s a (€2500) DIY retrofit.
Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Huawei’s sin was making too good cellphone. I owned one right before US decided to ban Google Android from it. It was awesome phone.
artyom@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
They keep out other options so that they can support American businesses.
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
A bit of column a, bit of column b. Ban Huawei, but Cisco is made in China too.
Johnmannesca@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Then blame TP-Link, right?