Comment on Jon Stewart on presidential runs and why there's hope for America

Jhex@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• JoMiran@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Oddly, you’d be correct 99% of the time but in Jon’s case he is actually highly experienced with dealings on Capitol Hill.

  After leaving The Daily Show, Stewart maintained a low profile in entertainment industry circles, but used his celebrity and voice in a sustained advocacy for 9/11 first responders and war veterans’ health benefits. In 2019, he received the New York City Bronze Medallion for his “tireless advocacy, inspiration, and leadership (helping to) pass the permanent authorization of the September 11th Victim Compensation Fund Act”. He continued using his platform as an advocate for veterans by being instrumental in helping pass the Honoring our PACT Act of 2022, which expands healthcare access and funding to veterans exposed to toxic substances during their service including burn pits.

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  • Jhex@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    so that makes him a good activist… the leap from there to POTUS is like you seeing me volunteering at a soup kitchen and wanting to give me a Micheline star restaurant to run

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    • JoMiran@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      His wife involvement was hands on and significant. In person lobbying, actual help crafting the legislation, etc.

      Does that alone qualify him to be potus? Probably not, which is the point he is making in the video. Does it making far more qualified than Trump? Absolutely. But the point of my comment was to illustrate that he does indeed have hamss on knowledge and experience in the legislative negotiations and crafting, which most other celebrities do not have.

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      • Jhex@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        yes but why choose a celebrity that knows politics when you could have someone with a full education and career (or at least you could wish for one)

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    • MotoAsh@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I mean, I get your point, but… are you really going to pretend Stewart wouldn’t be better than every fucking Republican?

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      • Jhex@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I mean, I get your point, but… are you really going to pretend Stewart wouldn’t be better than every fucking Republican?

        no, of course not. But the piece of dog shit I just scraped off my shoe would be a million times better than all republicans blended together so that is not really a measure of goodness

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    • neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Bernie Sanders was an activist.

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      • Jhex@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        and with his track record, he could have peen an awesome potus

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• wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  He has his hands on the pulse of the collective conscience, he’s used to keeping up on current events and really understanding the common sentiments associated with them, has experience managing a team of support staff, has great people skills, genuine good will, and an intention to have a positive influence on society.

  Honestly, what more does a president need? They can appoint relevant experts for their cabinet picks, they don’t really need to have any expertise or political experience themselves as long as they have the qualities listed above.

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• VeganBtw@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Kind of agree, but he has shown he’s willing to fight for great causes despite his notoriety, he tends to speak truth to power, and he already knows what it means to be famous, so I guess it’s better than a lot of alternatives.

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  • superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    And he has the charisma and speaking ability to actually win

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  • Jhex@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Again, not to take away from that… but it’s easy to “speak truth to power” when you are not in power

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    • MotoAsh@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It’s not about the ease of it. It’s the reflection of his character. He has enough money to fuck off and never peep again and live a life of luxury. He doesn’t.

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      • Jhex@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        and he is getting handsomely paid to continue his show… if you’d tell me he retired from TV to just become and activist you’d have a solid point

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  • DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Plus, he put a medal on a nazi so he doesn’t speak ill of Big Pharma again. He knows how to fall in line and do what he’s told.

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    • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Man who farted in here

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• Soulg@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  In this specific case it’s not just blind celebrity worship, he has solid experience pressuring legislators into doing the right things like with helping 9/11 firefighters, he’s generally on the correct side of most issues that affect the working class, and is a very good rhetorician (acknowledging that his show has other writers as well) to give speeches and communicate to the populace.

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  • Protoknuckles@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    But the great thing about being President is that your allowed staff. Bring the daily show writing crew as your staff writers!

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  • Jhex@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    so that makes him a good activist… the leap from there to POTUS is like you seeing me volunteering at a soup kitchen and wanting to give me a Micheline star restaurant to run

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    • MotoAsh@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I don’t understand how you fail to realize that if Trump can do it, a fucking potato could do it…

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      • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Exactly. The role of the president is defined by the president. They have a cabinet for a reason; they don’t need to be experts in everything.

        Presidents entering office with celebrity status have proven extraordinarily capable of pushing their agendas. The problem isn’t “celebrity”. The problem is that their agendas have sucked. Stewart’s agenda doesn’t suck.

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      • Jhex@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        but if a fucking potato can do it… imagine what an educated person with a good track record and a career of helping could do… why do you still want a potato?

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    • Soulg@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      You don’t have to agree with our opinions on why we think he would be good, just don’t accuse us of things we’re not doing

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      • Jhex@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        what am I accusing anyone of doing?

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• Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Reagan and Trump have proven that actors and media personalities are extraordinarily good at pushing their agendas. The problem isn’t that they were/are celebrities. The problem is that their agendas suck.

  Stewart has consistently demonstrated his agenda, on the air and as a lobbyist. His agenda doesn’t suck. His agenda is what this country has been looking for my entire lifetime.

  Don’t cockblock my candidate.

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  • Jhex@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Reagan and Trump have proven that actors and media personalities are extraordinarily good at pushing their agendas. The problem isn’t that they were/are celebrities. The problem is that their agendas suck.

    so maybe, just maybe, go with someone that has an actual education and career to show they have a good agenda? not just someone that seems nice… I do not think he has done bad things but he has barely been successful at ONE thing he has pushed the gov for (and not that successful because Vets keep getting defunded)

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    • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Dude you’re not winning this point. We understand what you’re saying and we disagree.

      Stewart / Sanders 28!

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      • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’m fairly certain the person you’re arguing with is a plant. He’s probably a covert right-winger here to sow discord on the left.

        I refuse to believe the average leftist is as mentally handicapped as it would seem from merely reading comments on internet forums.

        The widespread compulsive self-sabotage on the left makes no sense otherwise.

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      • Jhex@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        lol, tell me it’s not celebrity worship while performing celebrity worship

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• RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  What kind of preparation would Jon Stewart have to be a good President of the USA? other than being famous?

  He has shown that he has the very necessary ability to say, “I don’t know.” And him being famous for what he does has put him in the unique position to follow it up with, “But I know some people who might…”

  He has also demonstrated the very essential ability to listen when the smart people (and Doris Kearns-Goodwin) are talking.

  Do I think he would be a good president? No. He’s very much a liberal capitalist that worships the status quo we had under Clinton.

  It’s just that he demonstrates the qualities of a good leader that people are searching for in these demon days.

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  • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Do I think he would be a good president? No. He’s very much a liberal capitalist that worships the status quo we had under Clinton.

    So he should be aligned in the complete opposite direction of the country and the world. Ok. You think he can turn it all around in 4 years with a divided house?

    He has also demonstrated the very essential ability to listen when the smart people (and Doris Kearns-Goodwin) are talking.

    Oh snap

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  • Jhex@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    those abilities represent an incredibly low bar to clear man… it shows you have had shit leadership for such a long time

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    • RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I do not disagree with you on that.

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    • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I was just starting to wonder what country you were in. No worries, it doesn’t matter.

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• aesthelete@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Actually… celebrity worship of this type is why America is in the hole it is in.

  Actually, it isn’t. Sure, Trump is from reality TV but without the four decades of neoliberal rot hollowing out the country people aren’t desperate enough to think this fool can fix everything alone.

  Trump is a product of decades of austerity, lax antitrust enforcement, and reverse welfare.

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• Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  That’s actually exactly what he’s saying. He just can’t say it directly because it would impact his popularity.

  lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/62154821/23927704

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  • in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Well, it’s worked out phenomenally for Ukraine….

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• njm1314@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Celebrity worship is pretty much how we’ve always chosen our leaders. It’s basically how all democracies have always chosen their leaders really. Maybe it’s less the problem of celebrity worship and more who the celebrities we choose to worship are. Maybe that’s the issue.

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• NachBarcelona@piefed.social ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Jesus man you’re clueless.

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