Kind of agree, but he has shown he’s willing to fight for great causes despite his notoriety, he tends to speak truth to power, and he already knows what it means to be famous, so I guess it’s better than a lot of alternatives.
Comment on Jon Stewart on presidential runs and why there's hope for America
Jhex@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Actually… celebrity worship of this type is why America is in the hole it is in.
I have no doubt Jon Stewart is a thousand times better than the Orange Pedo but that is true for 98% of the population.
What kind of preparation would Jon Stewart have to be a good President of the USA? other than being famous?
VeganBtw@piefed.social 2 months ago
superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
And he has the charisma and speaking ability to actually win
Jhex@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Again, not to take away from that… but it’s easy to “speak truth to power” when you are not in power
MotoAsh@piefed.social 2 months ago
It’s not about the ease of it. It’s the reflection of his character. He has enough money to fuck off and never peep again and live a life of luxury. He doesn’t.
Jhex@lemmy.world 2 months ago
and he is getting handsomely paid to continue his show… if you’d tell me he retired from TV to just become and activist you’d have a solid point
DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 2 months ago
Plus, he put a medal on a nazi so he doesn’t speak ill of Big Pharma again. He knows how to fall in line and do what he’s told.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Man who farted in here
Soulg@ani.social 2 months ago
In this specific case it’s not just blind celebrity worship, he has solid experience pressuring legislators into doing the right things like with helping 9/11 firefighters, he’s generally on the correct side of most issues that affect the working class, and is a very good rhetorician (acknowledging that his show has other writers as well) to give speeches and communicate to the populace.
Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 2 months ago
But the great thing about being President is that your allowed staff. Bring the daily show writing crew as your staff writers!
Jhex@lemmy.world 2 months ago
so that makes him a good activist… the leap from there to POTUS is like you seeing me volunteering at a soup kitchen and wanting to give me a Micheline star restaurant to run
MotoAsh@piefed.social 2 months ago
I don’t understand how you fail to realize that if Trump can do it, a fucking potato could do it…
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 months ago
Exactly. The role of the president is defined by the president. They have a cabinet for a reason; they don’t need to be experts in everything.
Presidents entering office with celebrity status have proven extraordinarily capable of pushing their agendas. The problem isn’t “celebrity”. The problem is that their agendas have sucked. Stewart’s agenda doesn’t suck.
Jhex@lemmy.world 2 months ago
but if a fucking potato can do it… imagine what an educated person with a good track record and a career of helping could do… why do you still want a potato?
Soulg@ani.social 2 months ago
You don’t have to agree with our opinions on why we think he would be good, just don’t accuse us of things we’re not doing
Jhex@lemmy.world 2 months ago
what am I accusing anyone of doing?
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 months ago
Reagan and Trump have proven that actors and media personalities are extraordinarily good at pushing their agendas. The problem isn’t that they were/are celebrities. The problem is that their agendas suck.
Stewart has consistently demonstrated his agenda, on the air and as a lobbyist. His agenda doesn’t suck. His agenda is what this country has been looking for my entire lifetime.
Don’t cockblock my candidate.
Jhex@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Reagan and Trump have proven that actors and media personalities are extraordinarily good at pushing their agendas. The problem isn’t that they were/are celebrities. The problem is that their agendas suck.
so maybe, just maybe, go with someone that has an actual education and career to show they have a good agenda? not just someone that seems nice… I do not think he has done bad things but he has barely been successful at ONE thing he has pushed the gov for (and not that successful because Vets keep getting defunded)
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Dude you’re not winning this point. We understand what you’re saying and we disagree.
Stewart / Sanders 28!
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
I’m fairly certain the person you’re arguing with is a plant. He’s probably a covert right-winger here to sow discord on the left.
I refuse to believe the average leftist is as mentally handicapped as it would seem from merely reading comments on internet forums.
The widespread compulsive self-sabotage on the left makes no sense otherwise.
Jhex@lemmy.world 2 months ago
lol, tell me it’s not celebrity worship while performing celebrity worship
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 months ago
What kind of preparation would Jon Stewart have to be a good President of the USA? other than being famous?
He has shown that he has the very necessary ability to say, “I don’t know.” And him being famous for what he does has put him in the unique position to follow it up with, “But I know some people who might…”
He has also demonstrated the very essential ability to listen when the smart people (and Doris Kearns-Goodwin) are talking.
Do I think he would be a good president? No. He’s very much a liberal capitalist that worships the status quo we had under Clinton.
It’s just that he demonstrates the qualities of a good leader that people are searching for in these demon days.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Do I think he would be a good president? No. He’s very much a liberal capitalist that worships the status quo we had under Clinton.
So he should be aligned in the complete opposite direction of the country and the world. Ok. You think he can turn it all around in 4 years with a divided house?
He has also demonstrated the very essential ability to listen when the smart people (and Doris Kearns-Goodwin) are talking.
Oh snap
Jhex@lemmy.world 2 months ago
those abilities represent an incredibly low bar to clear man… it shows you have had shit leadership for such a long time
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I do not disagree with you on that.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I was just starting to wonder what country you were in. No worries, it doesn’t matter.
Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
That’s actually exactly what he’s saying. He just can’t say it directly because it would impact his popularity.
in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social 2 months ago
Well, it’s worked out phenomenally for Ukraine….
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
He has his hands on the pulse of the collective conscience, he’s used to keeping up on current events and really understanding the common sentiments associated with them, has experience managing a team of support staff, has great people skills, genuine good will, and an intention to have a positive influence on society.
Honestly, what more does a president need? They can appoint relevant experts for their cabinet picks, they don’t really need to have any expertise or political experience themselves as long as they have the qualities listed above.
aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Actually… celebrity worship of this type is why America is in the hole it is in.
Actually, it isn’t. Sure, Trump is from reality TV but without the four decades of neoliberal rot hollowing out the country people aren’t desperate enough to think this fool can fix everything alone.
Trump is a product of decades of austerity, lax antitrust enforcement, and reverse welfare.
njm1314@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Celebrity worship is pretty much how we’ve always chosen our leaders. It’s basically how all democracies have always chosen their leaders really. Maybe it’s less the problem of celebrity worship and more who the celebrities we choose to worship are. Maybe that’s the issue.
NachBarcelona@piefed.social 2 months ago
Jesus man you’re clueless.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Oddly, you’d be correct 99% of the time but in Jon’s case he is actually highly experienced with dealings on Capitol Hill.
Jhex@lemmy.world 2 months ago
so that makes him a good activist… the leap from there to POTUS is like you seeing me volunteering at a soup kitchen and wanting to give me a Micheline star restaurant to run
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
His wife involvement was hands on and significant. In person lobbying, actual help crafting the legislation, etc.
Does that alone qualify him to be potus? Probably not, which is the point he is making in the video. Does it making far more qualified than Trump? Absolutely. But the point of my comment was to illustrate that he does indeed have hamss on knowledge and experience in the legislative negotiations and crafting, which most other celebrities do not have.
Jhex@lemmy.world 2 months ago
yes but why choose a celebrity that knows politics when you could have someone with a full education and career (or at least you could wish for one)
MotoAsh@piefed.social 2 months ago
I mean, I get your point, but… are you really going to pretend Stewart wouldn’t be better than every fucking Republican?
Jhex@lemmy.world 2 months ago
no, of course not. But the piece of dog shit I just scraped off my shoe would be a million times better than all republicans blended together so that is not really a measure of goodness
neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Bernie Sanders was an activist.
Jhex@lemmy.world 2 months ago
and with his track record, he could have peen an awesome potus