We don’t even need to burn stuff. We can turn the system into chaos by a mere general strike, like literally staying at home and not working or buying stuff for a few days, like really doing nothing and seeing the economic system crash. We don’t even need to be close to 100% of the population joining such a movement for it to work.
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LouNeko@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
People tend to forget how cheap gasoline is and how abundant glas bottles and rags are.
fading_person@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
LouNeko@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Woah, nobody said anything about burning. Those are just regular, easily obtainable household items. Of course there’s always, The Implication that something could might happen.
fading_person@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
You’re totally correct. I just have a too fertile imagination. There’s nothing to see here, officer!
(Phew, hat one was too close. I will do better next time)
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Wait, we don’t have gasoline, we only have solar panels now.
LouNeko@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Vodka it is then.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Good idea. I’ll go get some ice.
No, wait.
Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Nah you got rid of solar and wind farms, some billionaires with oil companies made sure of that. There is still enough gas to fill the bottles, it’s just that they don’t make them out of glass anymore.
Has any research been done on of plastic bottle cocktails work?
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
try alcohol then
onslaught545@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
You definitely shouldn’t use a rag as a stopper for your glass bottle full of gasoline, especially if you might need to throw it away from you in the event the rag spontaneously combusts.
It would be much safer for the bottle to be sealed so the fuel inside doesn’t ignite until it’s further away from you.
LouNeko@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
But where else am I gonna store all my 1/4" ball bearings other than a glass bottle full of gasoline to keep them nice and clean? And the rag conveniently serves as a stopper and a way to dry the bearings if I ever need one.
But I gotta be carefull, the bearings can pop the bottle easily even if it hits something soft like a person.
onslaught545@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
It would definitely be safer to tape the rag to the outside so none of it spills. Maybe even oil the rag so it doesn’t get wet.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
and who’s gonna fight for the people? I’m not gonna fight for a society where women think of me as an asshole/predator/whatever simply because i’m a man. if we ever get a civil war, women can defend themselves, no kidding, because i’m not gonna fight and possibly die for somebody who doesn’t see me as part of their community.
the social media story that men are all assholes was a scheme to divide the population (women vs. men), to sow distrust and prevent cohesion. and it worked like a charm, because the people are goddamn idiots.
porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Well, idk about all men, but you certainly sound like an asshole
LouNeko@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t think it was a scheme, just natural emergence from access to instant and global communication. There wasn’t a single point in time where people have been at tune with each other. There was always division into competing hierarchies, groups and social circles. Now it’s just happening on a global scale.
Also, if women and men are so divided, then how come there are still couples and marriages and children? Don’t base your entire global world view on your own very limited personal experiences.
And let’s not pretend people fight for somebody else. In reality the reasons for fighting aren’t that noble. You either get radicalized, have nothing better to do or nothing else to lose.
fading_person@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Social media by itself can’t divide people. People become divided when they start thinking and acting like you’re doing at this moment.
piccolo@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
to sow distrust and prevent cohesion. and it worked like a charm, because the people are goddamn idiots.
Well it worked on you, so thats something.
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
It’s likely if you’re a man who behaves a certain way. I am an older man who has had to assist quite a few women after various degrees of sexist assault. I have also worked closely with men who were victims of violence by women, but I am generally in agreement with people about the misogyny risk that is everpresent for women. Most guys have little idea how deep it runs.
And then we get this kind of whinging. Dude, fucking wake up.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
I agree that assault and violence are grave problems, but that’s not what i’m talking about.
People are scared of each other and divided (which, if you think about it, is really the same thing) because they don’t try to understand each other’s situation. In other words, it’s empathy that’s lacking and that’s the more important issue than looking at the issues of women in isolation.
In other words, i would embrace if people tried to have more empathy in general (and this one isn’t targeted towards a specific group of people), instead of trying to make it a “women vs men” thing. If you make it a “A vs B” thing, you end up with division, which is arguably the opposite of what you want to achieve, which is a harmonious society.
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Yes, people under stress, or more accurately the duress of a chronic, barely relenting, and ubiquitous threat, are going to be reacting defensively in a reflexive manner, and that sometimes, especially for people who aren’t emotionally intelligent, means that they are going to stereotype.
Frankly, it is important to remember that there is a lot of cognitive load, trying to figure out who is a threat and who is not.
So, please have compassion in this situation, and recognize that many of the people you see as stereotyping or painting “men” with a broad brush are dealing with a kind of PTSD. Once you keep that in mind, it’s a lot easier to have a thick skin, and with compassion can even help them see things more clearly without being oppositional.
princesspurple@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Sir, this is a Wendy’s
octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
I’m gonna say this one time, and you will probably ignore it and continue on as you were.
But maybe, you will reflect upon some part of it later.
I have been on a path that could have ended with an attitude like yours. The sad thing about it is when people tell you that you are creating you own perception that women at large think men are all assholes, or that women at large don’t think of you as part of their community, by how deeply (or not) you are reading into things that touch on those issues, and how willing you are to set aside your feelings of being attacked to try seeing what is being said.
As one example, the bear thing a year or so ago sure pissed a lot of people off and I am pretty sure I hear echoes of that event (or something very similar) in your comment.
Choose for a moment not to feel victimized by it, and instead look at it like this:
Perhaps, it’s a sad commentary on the lived experiences of many women in this country which we all believe to be so safe that so many of them have experienced such a pervasive threat of sexual assault that they regard unknown men as potential threats. We’ve been calling ourselves the greatest nation on earth for as long as the nation has existed, yet in 2025 a huge percentage of our wives and daughters are unable to feel safe if a strange man is behind them in a parking garage.
Yes, it annoys me for a second when I am minding my own business and I can see that a woman has changed her behavior to keep me in view or stay ahead of me as if I’m going to do something to her when I know well and good I am not. I have never done that a single time in reaction to someone just minding their own business. But then I realize, in 50+ years, I’ve had the luxury of never having felt that level of danger in my daily life.
So I figure, I hope someone else will help my wife or niece feel a little more comfortable in the same circumstance, and I try to make that annoying woman in front of me who wanted to have a little less fear feel a little safer if I can.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
The masses aren’t smart enough for that, it’s too easy to distract them with some completely blameless minority group.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
the sad part is that while immigrants are fine, immigration does disadvantage the people.
(this might seem nitpicking, but it’s like the difference between air and wind. One is a substance, the other one is the movement of it. It is the wind that can cause damage, not the air itself.)
If immigration did not actually harm the people, it would be simple to prove that and get over with it. But immigration does harm the people. If there’s immigration of 3 million people into a country with 300 million people, then you can expect that the Cost of Living (CoL) goes up by roughly 1% for everyone in the country, so there’s a small disadvantage, because the resources are shared among a greater group of people.
However, what’s important in the entire discussion is to keep in mind proportionality. I.e., people make a lot of ruckus about life getting 1% more expensive while at the same time, inflation-adjusted buying power of the people has been reduced more than 50% in the last 50 years. (Assuming same number of hours worked per household.) I.e., wages have gone down a lot, more than fucking half in fact (that’s A LOT!!!). The reason is declining demand for human labor due to automation and such. That should be discussed, and the fact that we need higher taxes on the rich to pay for universal basic income.
In other words, we need proportionality in our discussion. It can’t be that a topic that influences our CoL by 1% gets 70% of our attention while a much more significant topic that influences our CoL by 50% gets only less than 5% of our attention. We need to shift the discussion more towards class issues and away from immigration issues, while acknowledging that immigration is still an issue. Just not the biggest issue.
discocactus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Selective reasoning, mostly BS. If the COL goes up by 1% so does the productivity, and per worker productivity has been higher then wages in my country since the 70s. If you want to play a game of “the immigrants aren’t skilled or productive” I challenge you to work on a framing crew for one single day in Phoenix AZ. I see now looking at your user name that you’re in Germany- I acknowledge that the context is different there, however I’d be curious to see if the same logic holds true- I’d imagine it does albeit on a longer timescale, since your trades have an actual certification and training process even for lower echelons of workers. I would argue that immigration in general does not harm people, and that it is a grade-school logical fallacy unworthy of serious discussion to say that “if it were true, you could prove it easily.”
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
it does not. In the 19th and 20th century, the number of workers has been the limiting factor to economic growth, so your argument held true. However, time exists, and so does progress, and so you can’t assume that our current circumstance of everybody-has-a-job holds true in the future. It probably won’t be the case.
With the advent of automation and AI, some (white-collar) jobs will be lost to machines. But an even bigger amount of jobs will be lost due to the end of economic growth. It is economic growth that causes the majority of jobs, and if that ceases, so do the jobs. It’s like jobs are like the wind: If things stops moving, they stop existing (they turn into thin air). So unemployment might be a big problem in the future. Adding additional workers to that does not help the economy, but increases unemployment and rather harms everyone.
octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
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