Comment on [CW: Slurs] Any attempt to connect with my dad immediately turns into "Woke liberals are ruining the world."

• BroBot9000@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  That’s projection.

  He doesn’t like people because they aren’t conservative and he’s projecting that same feeling onto others and treats them as he thinks they would treat him. With hostility.

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  • magnusrufus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    To be fair he might not like some people because they are black, trans, or little people regardless of if they are conservative or not.

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    • reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I wonder how many trans conservatives there are, the only one I can think of is Caitlyn Jenner.

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      • Daft_ish@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Another instance where conservative is synonymous with opportunist.

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    • bane_killgrind@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I can't find any indication a black, trans little person exists.

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• EvilBit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  The catch here is that I don’t like people who try to destroy my friends’ lives. Since the conservative platform is to destroy many of my friends’ lives, I don’t like people who follow the conservative platform. Conservatives like to treat this as bigotry when it actually isn’t. It’s intolerance of intolerance, which is not just acceptable, but necessary.

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  • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    I’m sorry what? Can you substantiate what you said about the conservative platform?

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    • EvilBit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      The clear anti-LGBTQ+ conservative stance is no secret. Same with the white supremacy and Christian nationalism.

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      • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        The claim is that the platform is based on wanting to destroy lives. Are you saying that the “clear” anti-LGBTQ+ stance is such that they are seeking to destroy the lives of those people?

        I’ve never once heard anyone on the right declare a desire to destroy anyone’s lives. I’m open to being proven wrong, but that would require a link to such a declaration.

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    • thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I mean, just look at literally anything they’ve done in the past few decades.

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      • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        That probably works well for convincing people who already agree with you.

        When someone claims “A” and I say “I’m skeptical of this A”, a rejoinder like “Well A is obvious if you look at things” isn’t very convincing.

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    • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Also just like more generally if you take “conservative” to mean “keep things the way they are” and accept the way things are is pretty bad for a lot of people, it becomes difficult to ethically support a conservative stance.

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• Xariphon@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Nobody likes him because he's an asshole.

  The two do tend to go together though.

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  • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    They do. Ever wonder what happens to a person’s personality when they are ostracized?

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    • Shapillon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Self doubt? Questioning why it might’ve happened?

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• fbbfan_ar@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  He’s convinced nobody likes him because he’s a conservative.

  And for some people that would be true. Conservatism seems to carry some intrinsically hideous notions.

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  • thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    It doesn’t seem to, their entire platform is based on wanting everyone who isn’t a rich white male to suffer.

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    • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Well it’s clear you get all your information about conservativism from non-conservatives.

      When you make up hyperbolic claims to justify why you don’t like X group of people, it’s easy to see right through that to the fact you just don’t like X group of people.

      Someone who says “Jews drink blood and that’s why I don’t like them” may seem on the surface that they’re declaring a very natural and healthy dislike of people who drink blood.

      But by caricaturing a people with that horrible claim which they know damn well isn’t true, they’re actually justifying their own hatred.

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      • thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        If you vote for a party whose platform is revoking the rights of others, and whose leadership is full of traitors trying to destroy our democracy, you’re a bad person. Full stop.

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• billwashere@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  “No dad, it’s because you’re a conservative asshole….”

  Boy I’m glad my immediate family isn’t like this. Distant cousins on the other hand? There’s a reason I’m not on Facebook.

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• CmdrShepard@lemmy.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  He’s convinced nobody likes him because he’s a conservative.

  That’s the brainwashing speaking.

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• intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  So if he were polite and conservative, you’d have no problem?

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  • Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Yes? I have friends with all sorts of political beliefs.

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• saturnus@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Yeah there usually not much you can do but hope for a change. Mine had drinking problems and was much like this. Went sober finally and he still is similar politically just not insufferable and can take a joke so it’s far more pleasant to be around him.

  Good luck…

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