Comment on [CW: Slurs] Any attempt to connect with my dad immediately turns into "Woke liberals are ruining the world."

Boozilla@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Thanks.

  Trust me, we’ve all mentioned it to him. He’s convinced nobody likes him because he’s a conservative.

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  • BroBot9000@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s projection.

    He doesn’t like people because they aren’t conservative and he’s projecting that same feeling onto others and treats them as he thinks they would treat him. With hostility.

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    • magnusrufus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      To be fair he might not like some people because they are black, trans, or little people regardless of if they are conservative or not.

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      • reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I wonder how many trans conservatives there are, the only one I can think of is Caitlyn Jenner.

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      • bane_killgrind@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I can't find any indication a black, trans little person exists.

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  • EvilBit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The catch here is that I don’t like people who try to destroy my friends’ lives. Since the conservative platform is to destroy many of my friends’ lives, I don’t like people who follow the conservative platform. Conservatives like to treat this as bigotry when it actually isn’t. It’s intolerance of intolerance, which is not just acceptable, but necessary.

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    • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m sorry what? Can you substantiate what you said about the conservative platform?

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      • EvilBit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The clear anti-LGBTQ+ conservative stance is no secret. Same with the white supremacy and Christian nationalism.

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      • thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I mean, just look at literally anything they’ve done in the past few decades.

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      • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Also just like more generally if you take “conservative” to mean “keep things the way they are” and accept the way things are is pretty bad for a lot of people, it becomes difficult to ethically support a conservative stance.

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  • Xariphon@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Nobody likes him because he's an asshole.

    The two do tend to go together though.

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    • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They do. Ever wonder what happens to a person’s personality when they are ostracized?

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      • Shapillon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Self doubt? Questioning why it might’ve happened?

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  • fbbfan_ar@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    He’s convinced nobody likes him because he’s a conservative.

    And for some people that would be true. Conservatism seems to carry some intrinsically hideous notions.

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    • thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It doesn’t seem to, their entire platform is based on wanting everyone who isn’t a rich white male to suffer.

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      • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Well it’s clear you get all your information about conservativism from non-conservatives.

        When you make up hyperbolic claims to justify why you don’t like X group of people, it’s easy to see right through that to the fact you just don’t like X group of people.

        Someone who says “Jews drink blood and that’s why I don’t like them” may seem on the surface that they’re declaring a very natural and healthy dislike of people who drink blood.

        But by caricaturing a people with that horrible claim which they know damn well isn’t true, they’re actually justifying their own hatred.

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  • billwashere@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “No dad, it’s because you’re a conservative asshole….”

    Boy I’m glad my immediate family isn’t like this. Distant cousins on the other hand? There’s a reason I’m not on Facebook.

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  • CmdrShepard@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    He’s convinced nobody likes him because he’s a conservative.

    That’s the brainwashing speaking.

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  • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So if he were polite and conservative, you’d have no problem?

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    • Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yes? I have friends with all sorts of political beliefs.

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  • saturnus@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah there usually not much you can do but hope for a change. Mine had drinking problems and was much like this. Went sober finally and he still is similar politically just not insufferable and can take a joke so it’s far more pleasant to be around him.

    Good luck…

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• fbbfan_ar@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They see everything through a political lens.

  IMO everything is, in fact, political.

  The problem is seeing everything to an irrational and wrong political lens.

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  • Boozilla@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I get where you’re coming from, but it’s possible to have pleasant meaningful conversations without getting into politics. Politics are important, but learning to connect outside of that context is an important life skill, too.

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    • fbbfan_ar@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      My problem is not that, but those that demand that every interaction must be free of politics because the cannot deign to care about the world or other people.

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  • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Oh my god dude look up what “lens” means.

    Like, you can look at everything through the lens of subatomic physics. And you can look through other lenses too. The existence of the other lenses does not imply the lack of existence or even ubiquity of the subatomic realm.

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    • fbbfan_ar@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The “lens” that considers certain people less than human or devoid of rights is not a valid viewpoint, is antisocial and it doesn’t deserve respect.

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• sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  “You know dad, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.”

  Son…are you telling me you are gay. I mean…I guess that’s OK, just don’t go spreading that around, or ever mention it again.

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