businesses and people are not equal and should not be viewed as such by law
Comment on The joy of quitting a shit job with an asshole boss
obinice@lemmy.world 3 days ago
They’re not wrong though, assuming they’re in the UK and/or their contract agrees a minimum of two weeks notice, as is standard.
This applies both ways. I expect this employee would be angry if their employer breached their contract to sack them immediately without this notice, but if the employee breaches those same terms of their agreed contract that’s…okay? No.
Regardless of their feelings, it’s very unprofessional, petty even, and depending on how litigious and unhappy with them their employer is, not a very smart idea.
There are many edge cases where things must be looked at differently of course (someone resigning over harassment at work would not wish to remain there for a fortnight serving their notice for example), but this must be discussed and agreed upon, because again, it deviates from the legally binding contractual agreement they both signed.
This employee, regardless of any legitimate grievances, in this communication is unprofessional, petty, and frankly childish.
While I don’t know the story behind their falling out, I suspect the employer will be glad to see them go. I wouldn’t want them working for me, or even work with them as a colleague. They sound awful.
Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
They aren’t but it doesn’t make notice periods any less important in contracts - for everyone involved. It’s a win-win situation to have these clauses because they guarantee a minimum of stability.
knightly@pawb.social 3 days ago
If businesses wanted stability they wouldn’t make the working conditions so bad.
yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
Depends on the country tbf. Countries (besides the US) generally have labor rights which make working conditions not great but certainly acceptable. Hell, I’d argue the conditions a business needs to meet to fire workers are actually fairly decent over here.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Most people aren’t working on a contract. And in the U.S. most states are at-will employment (something companies lobby heavily for) meaning you can be fired for any reason whatsoever, but is also means you can quit at any time you like in whatever manner suits you.
blarghly@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Really? I’ve signed a contract for every job I’ve ever worked at that spelled out the terms of my employment. It’s not like a company hires you with a firm handshake.
Vinny_93@lemmy.world 3 days ago
In the Netherlands, by law there is a minimum of one month’s notice. If the employers fire you, the notice time is doubled. So if a company would require three months notice it means you can still work there for 6 more months after you’re fired.
shiftymccool@programming.dev 3 days ago
Nice but awkward…
Prime_Minister_Keyes@lemm.ee 3 days ago
How so? You might not be required any longer to come in to work, especially if they think you could stir up some shit, break some plates on your way out. In fact, the company might even bar you from entering the premises if there’s a good reason for it, like “IP protection.” The company is only required to keep paying your wage, for 6 months in this case.
Denjin@lemmings.world 3 days ago
While yes it is a legally binding contract, the penalties must be laid out in that same contract and will usually be limited to any direct losses as a result of an employee quitting without notice which are, by definition, limited.
If the reverse happens, the employee would be entitled to their pay for the remainder of the notice period.
Seleni@lemmy.world 3 days ago
OTOH, if this is in the US, we are almost entirely at-will when it comes to employment; we can be terminated at any time, for something as petty as the boss not liking our socks, no heads-up required.
Here the two weeks notice is considered a courtesy, and sadly fewer and fewer businesses are proving worthy of that courtesy. It seems from the post title that this company did not deserve much respect at all.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 days ago
I thought from the last part that this was an ironic joke about all those quitting with text posts where the boss is really unreasonable and shitty