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• ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I haven’t been to school in a while, but we had smartphones when I did. And if we took up our phones in class we got called out by the teacher.

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• boonhet@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’ve been out of school for a decade now, but honestly at least when I was playing Hill Climb Racing, I shut the fuck up and didn’t disturb others. Otherwise I’d just be blabbering with my friends and that’s a much bigger issue for other students.

  I graduated with pretty much all 5s and just one or two 4s. Our scale goes up to 5. So it’s not like I was a dumbass who just refused to learn. You just can’t give a fast learner with ADHD the textbook and expect him to not know all of the course material a week in. It’s changed now, but my teenage brain was capable of processing enormous amounts of new information really fast (except subjects that were straight up memorization of facts, like history). I had literally nothing to do in class after the first week or 2 of a course.

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• AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  My kids school “boxes” phones if you’re caught using them or they interrupt class. They lock them inside a clear plastic case and let you carry that.

  This avoids liability because the kid still has possession of their phone and can still see an emergency text or call. The can’t interact with the phone but can get a teacher to unlock if there’s a visible emergency text

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• WolfLink@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  “It’s fine if it’s in a bag and off or silent” has been cell phone policy in my experience (10-20 years ago).

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  • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s the policy at most schools. Actually enforcing that in the face of a classroom of kids who don’t respect the rule? That’s a much bigger problem. They’re a lot more clever at sneaking them out than you would think. Moreover, if the phones are just feet from them, their presence is never out of mind. They’re a constant distraction even in a bag. Phone apps are literally designed to be addictive. Imagine if we had a rule that said “crack pipes are fine in your bag. As long as you don’t take them out and smoke in class, you’re fine.” Even if we lived in a world where crack somehow was legal for minors to have, how effective to you think that rule could be enforced?

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    • MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Many kids recently have been carrying around an addictive and dangerous chemical called dihydrogen monoxide in their bags. The temptation to have a “sip”, as the youth call dosing on the drug, can often be overpowering. Please sign this petition to ban dihydrogen monoxide in schools

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      • froh42@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        When I was a kid, it was forbidden to peruse DHMO during class, regardless how bad the withdrawal symptoms were.

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    • ulterno@programming.dev ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      how effective to you think that rule could be enforced?

      Easy. Keep some crack shots handy.

      Crack open ⇒ Crack shot

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• RandomVideos@programming.dev ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  What teacher allows kids to use their phones during class?

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  • andros_rex@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Teachers are hamstrung by administration.

    “You can’t write up a kid for watching tiktoks in class, you have to call their parent.” “Okay what if the parent doesn’t answer/doesn’t care?” “You can ask the kid to put it away.” “What if they won’t? Can I take it away? Can I kick them out if they’re watching porn on full volume?” “Nope.”

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    • RandomVideos@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If not allowing phones during class doesnt work, why would kids stop using phones during class by banning phones during breaks?

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      • andros_rex@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        They shouldn’t have them at all.

        It’s a huge liability issue - I guarantee every large high school in the nation has a group chat where nudes are shared.

        Children should not have unsupervised internet access. It’s insane we went from the “family computer in the living room” model to 6 year olds watching porn on their iPad in the backseat of a car.

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    • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Why can’t they be kicked out?

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      • andros_rex@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        During my final, I had two students start to scream at me (like cussing me out - genuinely felt unsafe.)

        I kicked them out to try to continue the final. 15 minutes later, the principal escorted them back to my room to lecture me.

        The district had been sued for suspending too many students, so they just stopped imposing consequences. (One of those same students left my classroom at a point in the year to go beat up another student in the bathroom as part of a gang initiation - they got a single day of suspension.)

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• QualifiedKitten@discuss.online ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yeah, I really don’t understand what changed or why. By the time I was in high school, pretty much everyone had a cell phone, but they’d get confiscated if they went off in class or we were caught using them during school hours, and that included all break periods. I remember a teacher threatening to take my phone away when I was using my phone to call my dad for a ride home after I had finished my exams for the day. For high school kids, I could see arguments on both sides for whether they should be allowed during breaks, but definitely not during class periods.

  Things were a little more flexible in college, but they were still expected to be silent, and some professors would ask you to leave the class if your phone went off or was otherwise causing a distraction.

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  • Euphoma@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Dang I’m in college right now and in highschool most teachers didn’t mind you looking at your phone in class. In college the profs don’t even react to people taking calls in class.

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• ArchRecord@lemm.ee ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The fact that we ever allowed kids to scroll instead of paying attention in class is absurd.

  I’ve never actually seen a classroom where this was the case. (aside from after work was completed, sort of as a reward for finishing their assignments on time) Most teachers will immediately tell students to put the phone away and will confiscate it if they keep trying to use it.

  When they’re talking about phone bans, they’re usually meaning things like taking phones away at the front and returning them at the end of the day, or requiring students to leave them in lockers/locked pouches.

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  • user224@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Well, I did. And I am in one. Most teachers don’t care about it. Technically the current principal banned them, but only one teacher told us, and it was a pretty sarcastic “I am supposed to tell you that you aren’t allowed to use phones during classes anymore.”

    Anyway, they got partially integrated. There’s an online school system we are supposed to use, and teachers often send us study materials there, including during classes. At one point we even took online exams (physically at school) and most used phones for that too (I prefer a desktop if I can use that).
    Basically it became an expectation. “Look this up, take a picture of this, open what I sent you, send me this, confirm that,…”

    But yeah, anyway, most exams are probably AI-written nowadays. This is known, and not particularly discouraged. Well, one teacher even told us we’ll be given computers with internet access on (part of the) graduation exams, and shown us how we can just copy-paste it to and from ChatGPT. And that was true.
    But hey, we also often have classes of absolutely nothing that you just have to wait out.
    The level of Slovakian education is setting the bar so low it clipped through the ground.

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