Dam I thought it was just a thing boring white ppl say. Imma used that retort.
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MTK@lemmy.world 4 weeks agoIt implies that for a man, sucking cock (a legitimate sexual act for any gender) is an insult because that would make him gay. So Homophobic.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
LudwigVonPseudonym@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It implies that for a man, sucking cock (a legitimate sexual act for any gender) is an insult because that would make him gay. So Homophobic.
I swear, if left-leaning folks like you had your way the future would be a world like Demolition Man where there’s microphones listening to everyone’s conversations and people get fined every time they say something someone finds offensive, which is a retarded future I don’t want to live in.
BZZZZT! LudwigVonPseudonym, you have been fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute.
MTK@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
“Don’t be a bigot” = dystopian future
Sound logic
LudwigVonPseudonym@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
“Don’t be a bigot” = dystopian future
Sound logic
LMAO you know what’s funny? That fucking high horse you rode in on.
For over a decade now, you far-left liberal Democrats have always thought yourselves the “good guys”.
You aren’t.
You’re just the lesser of two evils, which is the only fucking reason I vote Democrat at all.
Princess, I’m sorry the word “cocksucker” gets your panties in a bunch, but this is not the time for you to be blindly accusing people of being “bigots” just because they hurt your feelings.
No, this is the time for YOU to reflect on how bad of a fucking loser you and your party is at the moment, and how you’re going to do better in the future.
Want to see the problem with the Democratic Party? Look in the damn mirror.
You lost an election to a con man, a fraud, and a felon. Instead of wagging that fucking finger at me, how about YOU “do better” and take some time to reflect on exactly why that happened.
Either that, or continue being a fucking loser. Your choice.
despicable@lemmy.today 4 weeks ago
Mate whenever you need to copy and paste fragments of your comments into other comments you look like a proper tool
lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
“Far-left” and “Democrat” do not belong in the same sentence, ignoramus. Get educated. You can actually read, presumably. Deprogram yourself. You can actually do it. If I could do it at 12, you can do it today
Redfox8@mander.xyz 4 weeks ago
I think you’re getting caught up in the state being abusive and controlling to it’s citizens (as Dump is doing now) and society self-regulating itself for it’s own benefit (something that happens in all social groups) as being one and the same. Just because someone calls out another person’s bad behaviour, that does not equate to supporting a dictatorial, or similarly controlling, leadership.
LudwigVonPseudonym@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Just because someone calls out another person’s bad behaviour, that does not equate to supporting a dictatorial, or similarly controlling, leadership.
Hard disagree. Far-left-wingers would absolutely start jacking themselves off at the idea of someone being fined by a bot the moment they used a word like “retard” or “cocksucker” in conversation, and there’s no way you can convince me differently at this point.
The dystopian Demolition Man future that left-wingers want might not be as awful as the Cyberpunk 2077 future that right-wingers want, but it’s still not a future I want to live in.
The funny thing is, the majority of you folks on the left are utterly convinced you are the “good guys”. You aren’t. You’re just the lesser of two evils, which is the only reason I vote Democrat at all.
kmaismith@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
I think you need to work on expanding your political theory into more dimensions
despicable@lemmy.today 4 weeks ago
Lmao my man here thinks that the American democratic party is leftist, that’s hilarious.
Triasha@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
First of all, screw the Democrats they are not left wing. They are center right shitlibs, with a few milqtoast standouts like Bernie and AOC.
Second. You correctly look at democrats and see they are just Republicans lite, but your mistake is in thinking that going further left leads to greater power to the state to curtail speech, thought, and action. The left wants liberation. Economic and social. The power of government to celurtail speech is not liberation, it’s oppression.
Redfox8@mander.xyz 4 weeks ago
What have far left (or far right, or even centrist) politics got to do with it? This is about what’s socially acceptable. Yes that feeds into politics and left/right/centre opinions, but I’m not discussing politics (nor was the person you replied to). Which ties in with my first comment that you’re combining politics with social issues erroneously.
Ultimately abuse is, abuse, is abuse, no matter how you dress it up.
Enfors@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Where do they say that they want microphones listening to people? Just because someone doesn’t like some ways of talking, doesn’t mean that they want 1984-style surveillance of everyone.
LudwigVonPseudonym@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
You fucking left-wingers would absolutely start jacking yourselves off at the idea of someone being fined by a bot the moment they used a word like “retard” or “cocksucker” in conversation, and there’s no way you can convince me differently at this point.
BZZZZT! LudwigVonPseudonym, you have been fined two credits for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute.
Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Are u OK dude? Take a ride, go to a park or something, breath air. Your mental health is more important than whatever your podcaster tells you.
Enfors@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Calm yourself, man. You seem a little bit emotional there. How on earth do you presume to know my political affiliations when you don’t even know which side of the fucking planet I’m on? Get a grip.
carealot@lemmy.cafe 4 weeks ago
^ This bitch is a genocide supporter
Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Which one?
Gonzako@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Man, I love cocksuckers I’d get me one of those
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
its because hes submissive. its a power thing not a gay thing
abbotsbury@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
That’s still degrading to fellators.
And idk if I’d say it’s a power thing, cocksuckers are the active participant in a blow job, and I’d say the submissive one is the one with their meat between a pair of teeth.
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
its still at the end of the day giving pleasure to another. giving the key word: power thing. its the same atmosphere as bootlicker
papertowels@mander.xyz 4 weeks ago
If you think going down on someone is only a submissive act you haven’t gone down on someone long enough.
MTK@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Being submissive in sex can be expressed in a blowjob, but so can being dominant. Most sexual acts can be both dominant and submissive under the right context. For example a person can forcibly (consensually) throw the other person down, pin them to the floor and start going down on them while not letting them orgasm. Is the person being overpowered and forced to be frustrate by not orgasming the one in power?
Your understanding of mutual respect and love is unhealthy if you compare going down on someone to bootlicking.
abbotsbury@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Okay but like, in regular penis-in-vagina sex, the man is (theoretically) giving pleasure to the woman while also doing all the work. Is that still power play? Is pussyfucker the same as cocksucker?
Redfox8@mander.xyz 4 weeks ago
So, if you were to replace ‘cocksucker’ with ‘towelhead’, slut, Yid, or Nig*** would that still just be a power thing?
Not that it actually makes a difference. This ‘power thing’ you refer to is controlling abuse for self interest. Introducing a predudice is just a way of trying to justify and/or hide the abuse.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
find me people who suck cock that actually give a fuck about other people calling people cocksuckers and we can talk.
And idk if I’d say it’s a power thing, cocksuckers are the active participant in a blow job, and I’d say the submissive one is the one with their meat between a pair of teeth.
nobody is arguing that sucking cock is submissive??? The argument is that being a cocksucker is a submissive thing.
Or you trolling? Or are you actually serious?
LudwigVonPseudonym@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
That’s still degrading to fellators.
I swear, if folks like you had your way the future would be a world like Demolition Man where there’s microphones listening to everyone’s conversations and people get fined every time they say something someone finds offensive, which is a retarded future I don’t want to live in.
BZZZZT! LudwigVonPseudonym, you have been fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute.
carealot@lemmy.cafe 4 weeks ago
^ This bitch is a racist who called arabs “camel fuckers”.
MTK@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Too lazy to write two separate responses? I’ll try!
“Don’t be a bigot” = dystopian future
Sound logic.
Oh shit, that’s the same message, guess you will have to read it twice, maybe that way it will get through to you.
Tap for spoiler
You can be better, reflect on your bigotry and grow as a person.
MTK@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
He could have also said “vaginalicker” but he didn’t, he used a well known homophobic slur. Also, if he wanted to say submissive he could have used well known submissive insults.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
literally nobody says vaginalicker though? that’s just not the commonly understood variant of “cocksucker”
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
ok?
So what if i just argued that “cocksucker” just meant that you would suck someones cock if you got you something. I.E. you’re easily bribed/manipulated. As far as i know, that’s how most people use it.
That’s literally the implication like 99% of the time. If you wanted to insult someone for being gay, you would just call them a faggot or something lmao. No need to mince words at that point.
MTK@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cock_(slang)#Cocksucker
Just learn a bit before bothering others with educating you. History matters, the way that this slur has been used historically and presently, is mostly homophobic.
Sorry for the short temper, this thread has been too long and I already explained this on another comment.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
to be clear, the wiki page you explicitly linked literally say it has a historical connotation, and the primary example it lists is from checks notes 53 years ago.
I’m going to hazard a guess that the sentiment has probably changed, a little bit. Since 1972. 1972 to be clear, was 8 years after the passing of the civil rights act. It’s a bit of a different time period now.
anyway point is, i’m not convinced anybody cares about using this as a homophobic slur anymore.
Sorry for the short temper, this thread has been too long and I already explained this on another comment.
it’s whatever, that’s how the internet is lol. This thread has been more than amusing for me thus far.
WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Or you’re Swearingen from Deadwood.
rektdeckard@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I think I know where he got his name now
cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
imo the pejorative connotation of that word is (like many expressions of homophobia) ultimately rooted in misogyny
“always has been” meme with “wait, it’s all about maintaining the patriarchy?”